Baron99 Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 (edited) Look at this lot in a Lincolnshire pub last Saturday. https://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/news/local-news/pub-landlord-responds-after-photo-4371548 And the landlord will have all their personal contact details of course, won't he? Edited July 29, 2020 by Baron99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 7 minutes ago, Baron99 said: Look at this lot in a Lincolnshire pub last Saturday. https://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/news/local-news/pub-landlord-responds-after-photo-4371548 And the landlord will have all their personal contact details of course, won't he? Retford is in Nottinghamshire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron99 Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 18 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said: Retford is in Nottinghamshire. Of course it is. Me not knowing my R's from my elbow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Baron99 said: And the landlord will have all their personal contact details of course, won't he? If it's anything like my local the answer to that question is a resounding 'no'. Although it's very well set up in many regards, there is only lip service paid to track and trace. Given the government's staggeringly incompetent inability to provide such a service I can hardly blame them for making such a poor attempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Halibut said: Given the government's staggeringly incompetent inability to provide such a service I can hardly blame them for making such a poor attempt. It's not so much a case of incompetence but a case of basically not having a system that unless compulsory for all simply does not work. The incompetence if any was trying to get one up an running in the first place. Edited July 29, 2020 by apelike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longcol Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 1 hour ago, apelike said: It's not so much a case of incompetence but a case of basically not having a system that unless compulsory for all simply does not work. The incompetence if any was trying to get one up an running in the first place. Yeah - let's not try to track and trace - just let the virus run amok, overwhelm the NHS etc................... What do you suggest we do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Longcol said: Yeah - let's not try to track and trace - just let the virus run amok, overwhelm the NHS etc................... What do you suggest we do? I think I just did... Dont produce an app that does not work unless it is compulsory for all as the latter is its weak spot. It will not do what it is meant to do and to be of use it needs to be efficient and work. Edited July 29, 2020 by apelike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pettytom Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 1 minute ago, apelike said: I think I just did... Dont produce an app that does not work unless it is compulsory for all as the latter is its weak spot. It will not do what it is meant to do and to be of use it needs to be efficient and work. But track and trace is far more than just an app. Many Far Eastern countries carry it out very efficiently, without an app. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longcol Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Pettytom said: But track and trace is far more than just an app. Many Far Eastern countries carry it out very efficiently, without an app. There has hardly been any uptake of the French app - it hasn't stopped them coming down like a ton of bricks on new outbreaks in this region of France (Nouvelle Aquitaine / South West). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apelike Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Pettytom said: But track and trace is far more than just an app. Many Far Eastern countries carry it out very efficiently, without an app. That may be so but I think you will find that those very countries where track and trace may work are also mainly countries without much in the way of human rights where it is compulsory to comply. As halibut has already pointed out it's not happening much in pubs. As said, it need to be compulsory to work just like wearing a face mask when shopping now is. Would you be happy for this government to pay 2.5 million to 3.5 million euros per month to operate just an app like the one in Germany where less than 50% of the population have downloaded it? 7 minutes ago, Longcol said: There has hardly been any uptake of the French app - it hasn't stopped them coming down like a ton of bricks on new outbreaks in this region of France (Nouvelle Aquitaine / South West). Precisely, just because something is possible due to modern technology does not mean it should happen. Edited July 29, 2020 by apelike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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