top4718 Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Ok lets have it, all the pro-vaccine mob, please answer the following, honest answers only: How many people do you know first hand who become seriously ill from Covid (hospitalised cases only) How many people do you know first hand who have sadly died from Covid please also state any pre existing conditions, age etc To answer myself I know one from the first category, a 48 yr old who is overweight and had a drop in blood count, I know zero from the second category and I know one who is seriously ill after a blood clot from the Astra Zeneca jab. Over to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbuncle Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 (edited) 32 minutes ago, top4718 said: Ok lets have it, all the pro-vaccine mob, please answer the following, honest answers only: How many people do you know first hand who become seriously ill from Covid (hospitalised cases only) How many people do you know first hand who have sadly died from Covid please also state any pre existing conditions, age etc To answer myself I know one from the first category, a 48 yr old who is overweight and had a drop in blood count, I know zero from the second category and I know one who is seriously ill after a blood clot from the Astra Zeneca jab. Over to you. Or we could systematically collect data using national statistical offices around the World and avoid the self-selection bias, low sample size and anecdotal nature of appealing to a bunch of anonymous posters. And it's already been done and will be updated on a daily basis here: https://ourworldindata.org/ Edited August 19, 2021 by Carbuncle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top4718 Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Carbuncle said: Or we could systematically collect data using national statistical offices around the World and avoid the self-selection bias, low sample size and anecdotal nature of appealing to a bunch of anonymous posters. And it's already been done and will be updated on a daily basis here: https://ourworldindata.org/ Why because despite all your bluster you don't actually know anyone 🤣 This thread has shown that stats can be manipulated to suit any narrative so instead lets have some first hand experience of this virus, be interesting reading if nothing else. Edited August 19, 2021 by top4718 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 1 hour ago, top4718 said: I know zero from the second category and I know one who is seriously ill after a blood clot from the Astra Zeneca jab. wow youre amazing, isnt blood clots something like 500 people in 160 million worldwide or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbuncle Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 29 minutes ago, top4718 said: lets have some first hand experience of this virus, be interesting reading if nothing else. Or we could stay above ground and eschew going down rabbit holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top4718 Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, melthebell said: wow youre amazing, isnt blood clots something like 500 people in 160 million worldwide or something? Thats what the manipulated statistics say, I'll pass your comment onto the person, I'm sure it will make them feel much better, they are still very seriously ill, I was talking to a friend of there's last night who's very concerned as is her husband. 1 minute ago, Carbuncle said: Or we could stay above ground and eschew going down rabbit holes. Why it can't hurt anything, whats to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butlers Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Before the guidance was changed blood clots from astra were about 1 in 640,000 doses. If you check now it's as good as zero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 oh its less than 200 cases in 34 million, my bad https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/astrazenecas-covid-19-vaccine-ema-finds-possible-link-very-rare-cases-unusual-blood-clots-low-blood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top4718 Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 Just now, melthebell said: oh its less than 200 cases in 34 million, my bad https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/astrazenecas-covid-19-vaccine-ema-finds-possible-link-very-rare-cases-unusual-blood-clots-low-blood You can quote as many stats as you like, it won't cure this person who's now been ill for over two months and only getting marginally better, you people are insane. If I was going to lie to suit my argument I wouldn't have said I know someone who's been hospitalised with covid, I do and they have now fully recovered and back at work. Not everything that doesn't suit your narrative is a lie. 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 1 minute ago, top4718 said: You can quote as many stats as you like, it won't cure this person who's now been ill for over two months and only getting marginally better, you people are insane. If I was going to lie to suit my argument I wouldn't have said I know someone who's been hospitalised with covid, I do and they have now fully recovered and back at work. Not everything that doesn't suit your narrative is a lie. 🤣 I dont have a narrative, im picking through other peoples narratives and lies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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