Coronavirus - Part Two.

[apelike]

1 hour ago, tinfoilhat said:

Is it effective or not?

Yes it is but you don't seem to understand that it can only be effective if it is also compulsory and just one free country in the world has done that. Which other country has a successful take up rate where it is not compulsory?

[tinfoilhat]

51 minutes ago, apelike said:

Yes it is.

Thank you.

[L00b]

15 hours ago, andyofborg said:

in apes and ecco's world the government can do no wrong and boris and dominic are perfect and almost god like in their brilliance.

 

all public sector bodies from the NHS downwards, work within a framework of polices and funding provided by the government. even though they choose to ignore it the various ministers and secretaries of state are supposed to be responsible for these bodies and their actions and decisions. 

 

but like the top levels of private sector management, ministers take no responsibility for their actions and move on to pastures new without ever having to take responsibility for their failures. the only difference is that private sector types tend to go with millions in their pockets and ministers get new ministries to destroy. 

 

Just wait until the "grouse shooting and similar field sports" exemption to the Rule of 6 (specifically and singularly scheduled for a special Cabinet meeting chaired by Gove last Saturday afternoon (the meeting was called off-but the exception made the published rules)) start making more inroads in the MSM 

[apelike]

40 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

Thank you.

No worries. Perhaps you could return the courtesy and now answer my question posed to you in post #963. 

[tinfoilhat]

12 minutes ago, apelike said:

No worries. Perhaps you could return the courtesy and now answer my question posed to you in post #963. 

That's a different question though - you asked for an example and got one. It can be done, not always with just apps - but Iceland had a 38% uptake.

 

Germany hasn't had the same uptake for an app but where our numbers have shot up, Germany's went up and are levelling off again. They've not locked everything down, so what have they done?

[apelike]

1 hour ago, tinfoilhat said:

That's a different question though - you asked for an example and got one. It can be done, not always with just apps - but Iceland had a 38% uptake.

Thanks but 38% is still well under the level of any successful useful app though. As pointed out by scientists and biologists it has to have a take up of over 70% and preferable over 80% for it to be anywhere near successful and S.Korea have met those figures.

 

To be honest I think people are concentrating too much on its spread and how many have or may have it that they forget that the mortality rates are still very low given it is a major pandemic and for most catching it is not much of a problem. 

 

Edited September 14, 2020 by apelike

[Thirsty Relic]

When discussing the smartphone "app" and percentage take-up of it, I think it is worth repeating that targets of anything like 80% uptake of an a"app" are simply unachievable in a country like ours when only around 70-80% of the population have smartphones in the first place!

[Longcol]

More "world beating" testing from HMG.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/14/people-in-englands-10-worst-hit-covid-hotspots-unable-to-get-tests

 

"Ministers have previously promised to prioritise testing in Covid hotspots but people trying to book swab tests in the worst-hit areas were told on Monday that it was not possible, LBC reported. The issue covered Bolton, Salford, Bradford, Blackburn, Oldham, Preston, Pendle, Rochdale, Tameside and Manchester."

 

Obviously not the fault of Ministers though 😎

[Pettytom]

What a shambles.

[steved32]

13 minutes ago, Pettytom said:

What a shambles.

Not quite "world-beating" is it?