Longcol Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, sibon said: But PPE in social care settings is different to the public wearing masks in crowded places. You can spot the difference, can’t you? You mean tops could distinguish between profits made by tory donors selling PPE to HMG in the early days of the virus and supermarkets etc selling masks procured in normal commercial channels to sell to the public...................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 8 hours ago, Dardandec said: Tip of the iceberg. They will be mandated again soon, late 2021, early 2022 along with a short lockdown. I was surprised they were ditched in the first place to be honest in shops, public transport etc. Populism, people don't like wearing em so Boris ditched em to make himself popular Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annie Bynnol Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 8 hours ago, top4718 said: Interesting to read that a Tory donor made £16.4m profit from supplying masks, no surprise they wanted mugs to keep wearing them, talk about laughing all the way to the bank. Wow, now 'Private Eye'(1556) is the source of your information. "Profits of doom, More rich pickings for Covid entrepreneurs" No mention of the Conspiracy Theory bit that "...they(Tories) wanted mugs to keep wearing them...". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 So on the one hand Boris did Tory donors a multi-billion pound favour by mandating masks. On the other hand Boris dropped the mask mandate to make himself popular. Come on, give your heads a wobble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollingJ Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Tony said: So on the one hand Boris did Tory donors a multi-billion pound favour by mandating masks. On the other hand Boris dropped the mask mandate to make himself popular. Come on, give your heads a wobble. 👋👋👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altus Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Tony said: So on the one hand Boris did Tory donors a multi-billion pound favour by mandating masks. On the other hand Boris dropped the mask mandate to make himself popular. Come on, give your heads a wobble. Whilst tops might be confused, everyone else objects to the way contracts for PPE were awarded (fast track access to those with links to Tory MPs, etc) rather than whether it was needed. It's not surprising that Boris would drop the mask mandate to make himself popular, his whole bumbling Boris public persona is about making himself popular. It's not like he has ever put great store on being consistent - for example you may remember he was a big fan of us being in the EU and even argued that Turkey should be allowed to join. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top4718 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 On 19/09/2021 at 23:57, Longcol said: You mean tops could distinguish between profits made by tory donors selling PPE to HMG in the early days of the virus and supermarkets etc selling masks procured in normal commercial channels to sell to the public...................................... He made his money from the manufacturing of masks to sell wholesale. keep standing up for your Tory mates though. On 20/09/2021 at 08:20, Annie Bynnol said: Wow, now 'Private Eye'(1556) is the source of your information. "Profits of doom, More rich pickings for Covid entrepreneurs" No mention of the Conspiracy Theory bit that "...they(Tories) wanted mugs to keep wearing them...". No chance of you not mentioning conspiracy theory, give it a rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 29 minutes ago, top4718 said: He made his money from the manufacturing of masks to sell wholesale. keep standing up for your Tory mates though. No chance of you not mentioning conspiracy theory, give it a rest. The trouble is with what youre doing is mixing real conspiracies that we all know about and know is wrong, such as the tories and their PPE procuring that lead to them and their mates making millions. With outlandish ones that have no basis in reality and are based on lies and dont stand up to proper thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longcol Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 28 minutes ago, top4718 said: He made his money from the manufacturing of masks to sell wholesale. keep standing up for your Tory mates though. Lol - have a read of the Conservative Party thread sometime, starting here; https://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/topic/473200-the-conservative-party-part-two/page/3/?tab=comments#comment-8356927 Now - a link to this £16.4 million profit story please - is it any different to those I've already linked to in #9769? https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/dark-money-investigations/government-accused-of-cronyism-after-tory-councillor-wins-156m-covid-contract/ Tories do cronyism - yup, we know it, have done for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altus Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, melthebell said: The trouble is with what youre doing is mixing real conspiracies that we all know about and know is wrong, such as the tories and their PPE procuring that lead to them and their mates making millions. With outlandish ones that have no basis in reality and are based on lies and dont stand up to proper thinking. It's a standard tactic of conspiracy theorists - put known dodgy but true things next to dodgy but false claims and it makes the hard of thinking more likely to believe the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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