700 Homes For Attercliffe Waterside. (UPDATE: Revised plans at Council)

[BigAl1]

700 houses well I hope that someone gives attention to the surrounding infrastructure to cope with the influx as well as considering the flooding implications not just for the properties themselves but further down the flow in other councils areas

 

I guess this being Sheffield they will not allow these homes to have garages and parking spaces  for cars and that they will insist that the houses all have solar power panels and ground water heating

 

 

[Resident]

1 hour ago, Bigal1 said:

700 houses well I hope that someone gives attention to the surrounding infrastructure to cope with the influx as well as considering the flooding implications not just for the properties themselves but further down the flow in other councils areas

 

I guess this being Sheffield they will not allow these homes to have garages and parking spaces  for cars and that they will insist that the houses all have solar power panels and ground water heating

 

 

I wonder if they will be built in accordance to various acts including the Housing Act 1985. 

Wasn't the case last week when I went to view a new-build with my sis-in-law. Advertised as a 'spacious' 3-bed. Took a tape measure with us as one of the rooms in the photos looked tiny. 

Yeah. 40.21 sq foot for the smallest room upstairs, the bathroom was larger, well short of the 70sq foot required to be classified as a bedroom. Other rooms weren't exactly 'spacious' either. 

[BigPP]

7 hours ago, Bargepole23 said:

If the Don was in flood, where would the canal water drain to?

Looking at the map, the section from the canal basin runs as far as the Don at Blackburn Meadows, then the canal starts again a few hundred yards downstream and then runs as far as the Don in Rotherham.

According to this Government map the flood risk in this area very low:  https://flood-warning-information.service.gov.uk/long-term-flood-risk/map

 

[Baron99]

Some have raised environmental concerns?  Note the following & the response. 

 

https://www.rmcmedia.co.uk/vibe/food-and-drink/article/Plans-to-develop-Attercliffe-Waterside-cause-controversy

 

"The space, which will be familiar to people who use the canal each week as a popular running and walking route, is one of the only green spaces in the area and as such the plans have come under fire from conservationists, worried that Sheffield City Council are about to destroy more of Sheffield’s natural heritage.

 

In response, David Slater, managing director of Attercliffe’s Spaces Sheffield, said: “Sheffield has more green space than it knows what to do with and how to cope with. The Green Space that was given to the people of Sheffield by philanthropists of a bygone age who would have had no clue how life in the 21st century would be."

 

The section in bold amuses me. 

Edited August 4, 2020 by Baron99

[BigAl1]

4 hours ago, Resident said:

I wonder if they will be built in accordance to various acts including the Housing Act 1985. 

Wasn't the case last week when I went to view a new-build with my sis-in-law. Advertised as a 'spacious' 3-bed. Took a tape measure with us as one of the rooms in the photos looked tiny. 

Yeah. 40.21 sq foot for the smallest room upstairs, the bathroom was larger, well short of the 70sq foot required to be classified as a bedroom. Other rooms weren't exactly 'spacious' either. 

Only less than a fortnight ago (22nd July) The Times was reporting that developers were already exploiting loopholes in  existing rules and building flats the size of sheds and that a quarter of flats built under permitted planing rules did not meet national standards. 
 

so don’t expect any different in Sheffield.

[Be My Bubble]

David has been busy in the area for at least 20 years and knows very well how little the land has been maintained in the Attercliffe area. Clive Betts has been asked to attend to countless meetings with residents and business owners and achieved nothing for decades.

[Bargepole23]

2 hours ago, Be My Bubble said:

David has been busy in the area for at least 20 years and knows very well how little the land has been maintained in the Attercliffe area. Clive Betts has been asked to attend to countless meetings with residents and business owners and achieved nothing for decades.

Another quote from David....."Sheffield green space, particularly the parks are underutilised and are impossible to maintain".....dont know the man, but dislike him already.

[BigAl1]

On the Wadsley park estate I understand that the council has refused permission to develop the church (Grade 11 )for housing because of the nearby trees. The problem is of course that these trees are not maintained and on the estate more than one has come down so the church sits in overgrown undergrowth falling into disrepair. What you might call a loose loose situation

[Longcol]

13 hours ago, Bigal1 said:

On the Wadsley park estate I understand that the council has refused permission to develop the church (Grade 11 )for housing because of the nearby trees. The problem is of course that these trees are not maintained and on the estate more than one has come down so the church sits in overgrown undergrowth falling into disrepair. What you might call a loose loose situation

Councils and locals will get next to no say in new developments when new government proposals come into force.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/aug/05/englands-planning-reforms-will-create-generation-of-slums

[Annie Bynnol]

At Attercliffe the River Don is below the level of the Canal.

In the unlikely event of excess water in the Canal it will flow into the Don at Effingham Road or through Tinsley Locks and down to Blackburn Meadows where Canal drops to the level of the River Don.

Water is normally pumped up into the actually flows towards the Basin.

 

 

Very little Canal water will ever reach Keadby because of the tidal lock at Keady and the New Cut which will take most of the water from Kirk Bramwith to the Aire and Calder Canal and on to Goole docks. The original course of the Don was to neither.