click-00 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 The concept of MAD mutual assured destruction helped to keep the peace between America and Russia because neither wanted the ultimate destruction of people and country , now within Christianity and Islam that does not hold the same amount of fear some would welcome WW3 in the believe of return of Christ or the revealing of the twelfth Imam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
click-00 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 15 hours ago, Halibut said: Relentlessly fight against injustice and promote peace and equality. Just words your justice maybe open borders could we have had peace if we had surrendered to Hitler is equality supporting BLM a racist organisation your definition is yours only and will probably differ from mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 3 hours ago, click-00 said: Just words your justice maybe open borders could we have had peace if we had surrendered to Hitler is equality supporting BLM a racist organisation your definition is yours only and will probably differ from mine. For clarity, are you saying that you don't think fighting against injustice and promoting peace and equality are good and worthwhile things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomm06 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 3 hours ago, Halibut said: For clarity, are you saying that you don't think fighting against injustice and promoting peace and equality are good and worthwhile things? That depends on who your fighting. We currently have idiots running around claiming injustice, inequality and lack of peace in the very side of the world that has them. There is a side of this planet that is struggling with all of those things and this side isn't it - do they care? No. I have read one or two comments in the past where people somewhat justify the dropping of the bombs saying they ended the war and therefore potentially saving more lives in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halibut Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 3 hours ago, Tomm06 said: That depends on who your fighting. We currently have idiots running around claiming injustice, inequality and lack of peace in the very side of the world that has them. There is a side of this planet that is struggling with all of those things and this side isn't it - do they care? No. I have read one or two comments in the past where people somewhat justify the dropping of the bombs saying they ended the war and therefore potentially saving more lives in the long run. Who do you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
click-00 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 No I am not saying that the way to achieve peace , justice, equality differs the radical extremist believes they are doing that. The dropping of the bombs on Japan brought peace some historians say it shortened the war by two years and saved a million allied lives would you say that justified the use of them? I would say it did. 8 hours ago, Halibut said: For clarity, are you saying that you don't think fighting against injustice and promoting peace and equality are good and worthwhile things? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRESLEY Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 On 06/08/2020 at 19:59, casualbystander said: a lesson that has kept world peace since 1945. World Peace, not on this Planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hauxwell Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 (edited) The Japanese did surrender after the bombs were used. They could have gone on fighting for longer if it wasn’t for those bombs, and more British and Allied soldiers would have been killed. A lot of British soldiers had been fighting in the Far East for five years and a large majority were worn out with tropical diseases and poor diets. As one old soldier who spoke a little about his experience in Burma said, he didn’t think he could have gone on another six months, he was treated for dysentery and malaria which killed a lot of soldiers, then sent back out to fight, the malaria stayed with him the rest of his life. In five years he came home only once on leave because it was to far to send them home. He was grateful that those bombs were used because he had been told they were going to invade Japan if the Japanese didn’t surrender, and they predicted one in every three soldiers was expected to die if it had gone ahead, but because of the bombs it didn’t. As well as the people who lost their lives because of the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki spare some time thinking about those brave men who fought the Japanese in the Far East and the ones who lost their lives. Some of them in the barbaric Japanese prison camps. As Medusa said, it must have been a desperate situation that the world must have been in to use the bombs. Edited August 13, 2020 by hauxwell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 The Russians had lots of troops in Manchuria, they’d have potentially got to Japan before the Americans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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