South Yorkshire Bus Service Needs Improvement

[RollingJ]

A valid question, but a rather naive one, as that is so far from probability to be stupid. Fairly obviously, the service would have to be improved, but not all 5.000 residents would wish to travel at  the same time, and your other assumptions are also way off the mark.

[Guest busdriver1]

5 minutes ago, rogets said:

Straight up question

 

Lets pretend 80% of the people in Sheffield decided to get rid of their cars and go by bus, how would that work?

 

Lets take a route like stannington, with 1 bus an hour for example, and lets say Stannington has a population of 5000 people, how could 5000 people fit onto 1 bus per hour?

 

18 buses per day x 70 capacity = roughly 1260 people per day can get onto a full bus (assuming 1 bus per hour)

 

What do the other 4000 people do, how do they get around, does this mean stannington gets 5 buses every hour to meet demand, 7 days a week?

 

And I haven't factored picking people up at Malin Bridge, Hillsborough etc.... as more people get on the bus

Bus companies do take ticket machine data into account when route planning and any significant rises in patronage would result in an increase in the service provided. Your excersise assumes that all 4000 would wish to travel, there are many who would not. (stay at home parents, elderly, children, disabled etc.) 

9 minutes ago, rogets said:

And I haven't factored picking people up at Malin Bridge, Hillsborough etc.... as more people get on the bus

You also did not factor in people getting off at those points.

[rogets]

7 minutes ago, RollingJ said:

A valid question, but a rather naive one, as that is so far from probability to be stupid. Fairly obviously, the service would have to be improved, but not all 5.000 residents would wish to travel at  the same time, and your other assumptions are also way off the mark.

But 5000 people would need to travel by bus at some point if all residents got rid of their cars, at current capacity only 1200 people could use the bus with one bus per hour

 

And the majority of the bus users would be going somewhere such as Hillsborough (for food shopping) or going to work.

 

Yes while some may get off before Stannington and Malin Bridge, I would imagine the vast majority of bus users from stannington don't get off until at least Hillsborough Corner

Edited June 27, 2023 by rogets

[RollingJ]

6 minutes ago, rogets said:

But 5000 people would need to travel by bus at some point if all residents got rid of their cars, at current capacity only 1200 people could use the bus with one bus per hour

 

And the majority of the bus users would be going somewhere such as Hillsborough (for food shopping) or going to work.

 

Yes while some may get off before Stannington and Malin Bridge, I would imagine the vast majority of bus users from stannington don't get off until at least Hillsborough Corner

As explained by @busdriver1, that 'current capacity' would be amended.

[rogets]

2 minutes ago, RollingJ said:

As explained by @busdriver1, that 'current capacity' would be amended.

Where would the extra buses come from?

 

Who would drive these extra buses, as I understand it there is a shortage of bus drivers now to drive the current services

 

And where would these extra buses be kept, lets assume the current fleet of buses is 100 in Sheffield, surely they would need 700 extra buses + plus hundreds of extra  drivers to drive the buses

[RollingJ]

3 minutes ago, rogets said:

Where would the extra buses come from?

 

Who would drive these extra buses, as I understand it there is a shortage of bus drivers now to drive the current services

 

And where would these extra buses be kept, lets assume the current fleet of buses is 100 in Sheffield, surely they would need 700 extra buses + plus hundreds of extra  drivers to drive the buses

As your original post was based on fantasy, this is also irrelevant.

[dave_the_m]

At the risk of stating the obvious, if there was a large uptick in demand for buses, bus companies would (over time) start to run more frequent services, train up more drivers etc.

[rogets]

Just now, RollingJ said:

As your original post was based on fantasy, this is also irrelevant.

Not if people are forced out of their cars

[RollingJ]

Just now, rogets said:

Not if people are forced out of their cars

How and when? 'conspiracy theory' springs to mind.

[HeHasRisen]

1 minute ago, RollingJ said:

How and when? 'conspiracy theory' springs to mind.

Also I doubt any area, ever, has seen 80% of its residents move from driving to buses overnight.