South Yorkshire Bus Service Needs Improvement

[Andy C]

17 hours ago, busdriver1 said:

Interference from SYPTE. 

Mainline/SYT used to run the 60 Sheffield Interchange to Crimicar Lane and 41 Sheffield Centre to Crystal Peaks. Mainline is now First South Yorkshire.

 

Yorkshire Terrier introduced the 120 as a through service from Fulwood in competition, I suspect the number was an in joke at Terrier - it goes twice as far as the 60! Yorkshire Terrier is now Stagecoach.

 

When the Sheffield Bus Partnership launched SYPTE designed a new more efficient bus network designed to co-ordinate rather than compete and the 120 was the one that was kept but jointly operated by both First and Stagecoach, although in the daytime it is effectively two overlapping services (Fulwood-Crystal Peaks and Ranmoor-Halfway).

 

There is actually a number 41 bus now but its a different route - it runs from Sheffield Centre to Frecheville via East Bank Road to Manor Top.

 

Edited August 11, 2022 by Andy C

[driver151]

keep seeing alot of stuff (not just on here other social media) regarding wanting more buses here there and everywhere and more this more that, Who is going to Drive them? us drivers are still leaving like there is no tommorow and the newbie's are already hating the job and not lasting long,

 

Our depot took on more work when we cant even run our own stuff, cant make it up,

[BigAl1]

22 minutes ago, Andy C said:

Mainline/SYT used to run the 60 Sheffield Interchange to Crimicar Lane and 41 Sheffield Centre to Crystal Peaks. Mainline is now First South Yorkshire.

 

Yorkshire Terrier introduced the 120 as a through service from Fulwood in competition, I suspect the number was an in joke at Terrier - it goes twice as far as the 60! Yorkshire Terrier is now Stagecoach.

 

When the Sheffield Bus Partnership launched SYPTE designed a new more efficient bus network designed to co-ordinate rather than compete and the 120 was the one that was kept but jointly operated by both First and Stagecoach, although in the daytime it is effectively two overlapping services (Fulwood-Crystal Peaks and Ranmoor-Halfway).

 

There is actually a number 41 bus now but its a different route - it runs from Sheffield Centre to Frecheville via East Bank Road to Manor Top.

 

new more efficient bus network designed to co-ordinate rather than compete

if only First and Stagecoach would on routes 120/52

[sheflad]

7 hours ago, BigAl1 said:

new more efficient bus network designed to co-ordinate rather than compete

if only First and Stagecoach would on routes 120/52

Except they do where as before the 52 would be each every 5 minutes since the partnership started they now operate every 10 minutes combined so you’ll get a first 52A then 10 minutes later a Stagecoach 52 and so on. Before the partnership you’d have a 52A every 5 minutes and a Stagecoach 52 every 5 minutes too.

[RollingJ]

Just now, sheflad said:

Except they do where as before the 52 would be each every 5 minutes since the partnership started they now operate every 10 minutes combined so you’ll get a first 52A then 10 minutes later a Stagecoach 52 and so on. Before the partnership you’d have a 52A every 5 minutes and a Stagecoach 52 every 5 minutes too.

And would these 12 buses an hour be carrying enough passengers to warrant such a crowded schedule? I doubt it, even at peak times.

[HeHasRisen]

Not anymore. Covid has changed working patterns forever imo.

[RollingJ]

1 minute ago, HeHasRisen said:

Not anymore. Covid has changed working patterns forever imo.

I agree with that statement - sadly - but my question was about pre-Covid loadings

[BigAl1]

2 hours ago, sheflad said:

Except they do where as before the 52 would be each every 5 minutes since the partnership started they now operate every 10 minutes combined so you’ll get a first 52A then 10 minutes later a Stagecoach 52 and so on. Before the partnership you’d have a 52A every 5 minutes and a Stagecoach 52 every 5 minutes too.

I am thinking not about when the service is running fine but when one or both operators have problems. Then the is no coordination and cooperation visible 

[Guest]

10 hours ago, Andy C said:

Yorkshire Terrier introduced the 120 as a through service from Fulwood in competition, I suspect the number was an in joke at Terrier - it goes twice as far as the 60! Yorkshire Terrier is now Stagecoach.

Wasn't that SUT?  Burgundy and cream. Used to go through Manor Top and down City Road.

[Guest busdriver1]

56 minutes ago, BigAl1 said:

I am thinking not about when the service is running fine but when one or both operators have problems. Then the is no coordination and cooperation visible 

That is because even despite the Sheffield bus agreement, operators are not permitted to do that without legal permission to do so. The agreement is just that, an agreement to coordinate timetables on paper and no more.