hello1964 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) Can we get some personable, serene debate sorted ..buses anyone..? Anyone for tennis..is now anyone use buses..? Edited October 31, 2023 by hello1964 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollingJ Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, HeHasRisen said: No, he doesn't mean me. The intellect on display here is staggering. If you say so. 😂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHasRisen Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Absolute gibberish. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hello1964 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Just now, HeHasRisen said: No, he doesn't mean me. The intellect on display here is staggering. How so..?....I got English language, a 3 , at school on t Cross..1987. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 (edited) 18 hours ago, hello1964 said: Not benefits, what she indoors allows me. No. No doxing allowed here. It's not doxxing if you're posting your own info. Also if you were an expert on public transport then you'd know that almost all evening/weekend operations are funded by SYMCA, who have chosen no to fund appropriately as they, like most of the people of Sheffield, think it's still the 1970s. The issue in SY is one of costs. There's no money in SY to run the buses because almost 80% of service users don't pay for it. OAPs, Disabled & Free TravelMaster Day/Week tickets (given to fresh off the dinghy migrants) are these 80% which leaves 20% of the service users putting their hands in their pockets to pay the running costs. Whilst it's true that SYMCA pays when any of these are scanned, it's literally pennies. From friends in the industry, between all the operators, it costs almost £2 million a day to run all the services from 4am-1am, with the average cost per bus being around £87/hour. There's also the fact that the people of SY, unless they're making it, seem to think that profit is a dirty word. Without profit there can be no further investment. Vehicles are expensive, the average being around £350,000 for a basic spec. From reports online one SY operator made just over £700,000 profit in 22/23. Not even enough to cover a day's operation. Also if you think SY buses are expensive then once the cap ends I invite you to dip a toe outside of South Yorkshire. Take some smelling salts as you're gonna get a shock. As for the topic I'm going to say this: Until ALL services users pay then there will be no improvements. This would mean removing the freebies & we all know that's not going to happen. Edited November 1, 2023 by Resident 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irene Swaine Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Has anyone seen the well advertised Revenue Protection Officers on First buses recently? I've not seen them yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padders Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, Irene Swaine said: Has anyone seen the well advertised Revenue Protection Officers on First buses recently? I've not seen them yet. Not been on a bus for about 5 years Irene.. Didn't they used to be called Bus Inspectors? Remember when they called Binmen- "Refuse disposal officers" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollingJ Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 8 minutes ago, Irene Swaine said: Has anyone seen the well advertised Revenue Protection Officers on First buses recently? I've not seen them yet. They are still about, but there are only a few of them, and they will obviously concentrate on 'problematic' services. 2 minutes ago, Padders said: Not been on a bus for about 5 years Irene.. Didn't they used to be called Bus Inspectors? Remember when they called Binmen- "Refuse disposal officers" Different responsibilities. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irene Swaine Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, Padders said: Not been on a bus for about 5 years Irene.. Didn't they used to be called Bus Inspectors? Remember when they called Binmen- "Refuse disposal officers" You are thinking of Blakey! I didn't hear about binmen being called that! I remember dinnerladies being called 'mid-day supervisors'! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Irene Swaine said: Has anyone seen the well advertised Revenue Protection Officers on First buses recently? I've not seen them yet. They are on buses. Seen them mainly on X1/X10/X5. I happen to know those routes are regularly plagued by fare evaders, usually passengers with "student" cards (people who look like they've never seen the inside of a University) over travelling on student tickets. Rumour has it that they've issued fines to over 2000 passengers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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