Public Money Killing Private Enterprise

[Anna B]

6 hours ago, MarcyC said:

As will I .

My personal view has always been that people who want to will pay for the art they want to see.  

I do not see why anyone should have to should subsidise that in any way. 

People who really want their art to be seen will price access to it according to demand and market forces as happens with all other commodoties.

 

Sheffield's sports facilites are often withdrawn from member's usage for events and not all of those are sporting events.

Despite great arguably unjustified expense at the time they were paid for quite a few sports facilities have simply disappeared 

 

So as the joint  employers of Sheffield CityCouncil it would be nice for us to know where all the money is going,   or should I say to who?

 

Mmm, interesting. 

At one time the arts were available to all in an effort to inform and educate the working classes. Even  Shakespeare had room for the groundlings in the pit.

 

Now there is no doubt that some Art is very elitist and outside the pocket of ordinary people. I doubt, for example, I will ever be able to afford a ticket to the Opera at Covent Garden.    

[Annie Bynnol]

On 30/08/2020 at 10:27, Sheffield Music said:

(Sheffield Theatres)...announced a £700K Arts Council grant, just six days before announcing that they were closing down until Easter and making hundreds redundant.

 

49 minutes ago, Sheffield Music said:

Dunno where you got that figure from? It's wrong. At least you tried.

Just saying "It's wrong " does not strengthen your point at all.

You should at least find the quote that is behind your opinion that "Sheffield Theatres" have announced"... that they were closing down until Easter and making hundreds redundant."

 

 

 

[Baron99]

53 minutes ago, Anna B said:

Mmm, interesting. 

At one time the arts were available to all in an effort to inform and educate the working classes. Even  Shakespeare had room for the groundlings in the pit.

 

Now there is no doubt that some Art is very elitist and outside the pocket of ordinary people. I doubt, for example, I will ever be able to afford a ticket to the Opera at Covent Garden.    

Not really my thing but just checked the Royal Opera House, Covent Garden website.  Next event is online & it's £16 to watch the Royal Opera live on Sept 4th.

 

You can have a load of friends round to watch for £16.  Cheaper than most things these days. 

[Martin C]

4 hours ago, Baron99 said:

Not really my thing but just checked the Royal Opera House, Covent Garden website.  Next event is online & it's £16 to watch the Royal Opera live on Sept 4th.

 

You can have a load of friends round to watch for £16.  Cheaper than most things these days. 

Online doesn't really cut it though. The whole thing about live music (of any genre) is surely actually being there. I went to at least one gig on 361 of the 365 days in 2019.  I'll struggle to make 150 gigs this year (live streams obviously don't count).

[Thirsty Relic]

14 hours ago, Baron99 said:

Not really my thing but just checked the Royal Opera House, Covent Garden website.  Next event is online & it's £16 to watch the Royal Opera live on Sept 4th.

 

You can have a load of friends round to watch for £16.  Cheaper than most things these days. 

You can have a load of friends round?  Funny, I thought we were in lockdown and socially isolating!  A little thing called Covid!

[MarcyC]

On 01/09/2020 at 09:50, Thirsty Relic said:

You can have a load of friends round?  Funny, I thought we were in lockdown and socially isolating!  A little thing called Covid!

But not everyone is following those guidelines or for that matter ever did follow them.  At least not in my experience.    And then when they did contract CV blamed the authorities for some twisted reason

 

Perhaps some of those might be convinced to buy a £16 ticket to host a live TV opera party  is a good idea.  

[nikki-red]

If you want to discuss Covid please do so in the existing thread.

[Anna B]

On 01/09/2020 at 00:07, Martin C said:

Online doesn't really cut it though. The whole thing about live music (of any genre) is surely actually being there. I went to at least one gig on 361 of the 365 days in 2019.  I'll struggle to make 150 gigs this year (live streams obviously don't count).

I agree totally.

Online is not the same thing at all. A very poor substitute.

Might as well watch the telly.

[rachelmum]

It's a very sad state of affairs especially for the Lyceum where you are packed tightly to watch a performance and if you introduced social distance there I doubt they'd cover the cost of the performance. I had a booking cancelled there donated 10% of the value used the credit to re-book for 31-10-20 paid a few pounds more only to have them shut down until next year. No one has been in touch to refund my cash. I don't want to demand it if it means they close down permanently. A terrible time for them. If you can travel on a bus or train with a mask is it really much different to go to the theatre and watch the performance wearing a mask for a couple of hours ? Can't they make it work will restrictions be much different next year ? 

[catmiss]

Sorry but the Lyceum needed to look at the seating arrangements well before Covid. My friend and I could only get seats in the gods and paid £25 for the most uncomfortable 2 hours we have ever experienced, both of us came out with the curved imprint of the seat in front on our knees and the imprint or bruises of a body part of the person in the neighbouring seats and, in case you’re wondering none of us were oversized