No New Petrol Or Diesel Cars After 2030-Will There Be A U Turn?

[choogling]

Recent study indicated electric cars produce 58% more carbon just to make them and the pay back time is about four years before they are carbon neutral.

[tinfoilhat]

23 hours ago, the_bloke said:

Yes, I seriously believe that outside of a few extra charging points in supermarket and council car parks, the majority of 'infrastructure' will actually be charging points installed in garages and driveways as part of new EV car purchase deals. That won't help people who can't afford new or newly new cars will it?

 

Or do you think that the taxpayer is going to fund the installation of an EV point for overnight car charging for every house in the country?

Do you think EVs will need charging every night? How many miles do we do a week?

[atticus]

Lack of charging points will hopefully just be a short term problem.

Batteries are getting better all the time;  they could well be lightweight and portable in 5- 10  years time .Just take it out of the car and recharge it at home.

[tinfoilhat]

3 hours ago, atticus said:

Lack of charging points will hopefully just be a short term problem.

Batteries are getting better all the time;  they could well be lightweight and portable in 5- 10  years time .Just take it out of the car and recharge it at home.

You can do with ev motorbikes (or whatever youd call them).

[ads36]

i wouldn't hold your breath for a car battery that has 300km range, and weighs less thank 300Kg...

 

(currently, it's more like 500Kg)

 

a battery with adequate range, that's pick-up-able, it's so far over the horizon that it's a stretch to even call it science fiction.

[Cyclecar]

A Lithium based battery has a charge efficiency of around 90%. Nothing else comes close. To make a lighter, more powerful battery someone needs to discover a new element.

 

Science can be a nuisance. 🤢

[the_bloke]

18 hours ago, tinfoilhat said:

Do you think EVs will need charging every night? How many miles do we do a week?

Note I was talking about old EV's in the future; in 2040 when Dave wants to replace his 2030 Corsa but he's on a strict budget. He might only be able to afford an EV that has a lot of miles on the clock and the batteries are only returning something like 50% efficiency and can only do about 40 miles a day. 

[Bargepole23]

2 hours ago, Cyclecar said:

A Lithium based battery has a charge efficiency of around 90%. Nothing else comes close. To make a lighter, more powerful battery someone needs to discover a new element.

 

Science can be a nuisance. 🤢

Or science has another idea, polymer based battery technology.

[atticus]

Well it looks like batteries and battery storage are going to play a big part in our future energy needs . They need to be smaller , more powerful and much cheaper than they are now. 
let’s hope necessity is indeed the mother of invention 

[Janus]

From what I have read and studied so far, EV's are a farce at the moment.

 

It seems to me that they are almost selling prototypes to the 'guinea pigs'.

 

These EV's are are being roled out prematurely, in respect of the car and the charging infrastructure. It is hard to believe that people are buying these at such an early stage .