butlers Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Mmm, what to make of this. https://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/02/politics/donald-trump-terrorists-families/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_DADDY Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 2 hours ago, butlers said: Mmm, what to make of this. https://edition.cnn.com/2015/12/02/politics/donald-trump-terrorists-families/index.html It's cnn so not even worth clicking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 10 hours ago, The_DADDY said: It's cnn so not even worth clicking CNN - "All the News we Choose". (If you're not yet tired of hearing how bad they say Trump really is, or not interested in CNN's ongoing internal scandals) Hard to find balanced news sources these days, but The Hill ( a little left) and Real Clear Politics (a little right) usually cover both sides of political issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheffieldBricky Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 14 hours ago, The_DADDY said: It's cnn so not even worth clicking I second that. The whole place is falling apart. Latest scandal is they were supporting NY Mayor Cummo because the CEO was bonking one of his friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magilla Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 (edited) 19 hours ago, trastrick said: Joe Biden, who's poll numbers are under water, is seen as weak, at home and abroad. The US is seen as weaker abroad because most of the world now think the US political system is broken and as such cannot be relied on... ...this is a direct result of Trumps presidency. It's not related to Biden. Quote This is the accusation leveled by opponents of the US president, ... People who don't like Biden try to convince everyone else he's doing a bad job... ...colour me shocked! How Biden is really seen abroad: https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2021/06/10/americas-image-abroad-rebounds-with-transition-from-trump-to-biden/ Quote Time for an image upgrade, and a photo-op. ISIL leader killed in US raid in Syria, Biden says https://www.foxnews.com/politics/inside-us-raid-that-killed-isis-leader Trouble is, his other problem, incompetence gets in the way. The article clearly states that casualties were minimized by opting not to go with a drone strike on this occasion. From your link, the operation appears to have been a success! Quote We already have 10 civilians , including 7 children killed by drone in Kabul and today 13 civilians. including 6 children, killed in this latest raid. A practice that, only last week,enjoyed your full support and given Trumps comments on the matter... https://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/trump-kill-isil-families-216343 ...you'll forgive my cynicism at your faux concern Quote Hopefully his handlers will send somebody out there, to show a little human, sober, circumspection for the death of those innocents. Like Trump never did, and removed the responsibility to do so from anyone who actually might! Edited February 4, 2022 by Magilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 (edited) 17 hours ago, Magilla said: The US is seen as weaker abroad because most of the world now think the US political system is broken and as such cannot be relied on... ...this is a direct result of Trumps presidency. It's not related to Biden. People who don't like Biden try to convince everyone else he's doing a bad job... ...colour me shocked! How Biden is really seen abroad: https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2021/06/10/americas-image-abroad-rebounds-with-transition-from-trump-to-biden/ The article clearly states that casualties were minimized by opting not to go with a drone strike on this occasion. From your link, the operation appears to have been a success! A practice that, only last week,enjoyed your full support and given Trumps comments on the matter... https://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/trump-kill-isil-families-216343 ...you'll forgive my cynicism at your faux concern Like Trump never did, and removed the responsibility to do so from anyone who actually might! You say, "How Biden is really seen abroad: https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2021/06/10/americas-image-abroad-rebounds-with-transition-from-trump-to-biden/" and "The US is seen as weaker abroad because........" So which is it? Here's hint! That Pew poll was taken in June of 2021, when Biden's approval ratings were 54 positive to 41 negative. Today Biden is at 41 positive to 54 negative. A lot has happened in the last 9 months. Afghanistan retreat debacle Russia and China preparing "minor incursions" (as Biden calls them) in The Ukraine and Taiwan, which saw Russia take over part of the Ukraine in 2014, unopposed by Obama/Biden or NATO. Gas prices "skyrocket" -CNN "Worst inflation in nearly 40 years" - CNN "Middle class joe has a corruption problem" - Guardian "Woke and Weak: Biden Punishes Americans, Emboldens Adversaries" "While the Biden administration fixates on smearing political opponents as domestic terrorists and effectively silencing, targeting and and pursuing them accordingly, bona fide terrorists, foreign adversaries and violent criminals have been greenlit to act with total impunity. - Newsweek "The Democratic brand is broken" - Politico Sure, with Biden's Party in charge of all three branches of U.S. Government, it's all Trump's fault. Even your left wing media don't buy that anymore. Just a few true believers left now. But, good luck with your "narrative" in November. We'll see who was right! Lol Edited February 5, 2022 by trastrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annie Bynnol Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Since you continue to talk up Trump on this and every other thread: Trump continues to insist that he was entitled to prevent the Biden becoming President. He is still telling his far-right supporters that the 'will of Trump' can overcome the 'will of the People', and that he Trump had the right to: Overule the 'American Democratic system', Overule the 'Constitution', Overule ' State Laws' Overule 'Federal Laws' the is right he could have overturned the will of the people. Let us not forget that: Trump spent $millions of other peoples money to keep his job. Trump refused his family and political advisers advice to stop the deadly attack on the Capitol by his mob shouting, "Hang Mike Pence." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magilla Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 1 hour ago, trastrick said: You say, "How Biden is really seen abroad: https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2021/06/10/americas-image-abroad-rebounds-with-transition-from-trump-to-biden/" and "The US is seen as weaker abroad because........" So which is it? I know it's a difficult cognitive concept, but Biden is not "The US" 1 hour ago, trastrick said: Here's hint! That Pew poll was taken in June of 2021, when Biden's approval ratings were 54 positive to 41 negative. Today Biden is at 41 positive to 54 negative. Domestic polls do not reflect the views of the wider world. If they did, confidence in the US during Trumps tenure wouldn't have fallen off a cliff, and stayed there! 1 hour ago, trastrick said: A lot has happened in the last 9 months. Indeed! Economy adds stunning 467K jobs in January despite omicron surge: https://thehill.com/policy/finance/592783-jobs-report-economy-covid-19-omicron-employment Stunning! 1 hour ago, trastrick said: "Worst inflation in nearly 40 years" - CNN A global issue! 1 hour ago, trastrick said: "Middle class joe has a corruption problem" - Guardian Desperate stuff! https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jan/20/joe-biden-corruption-donald-trump An article from over 2 years ago... before Biden was even the Democratic candidate... ...looks like it wasn't a problem after all, he won! A lot can happen in 2 years! 1 hour ago, trastrick said: "Woke and Weak: Biden Punishes Americans, Emboldens Adversaries" "While the Biden administration fixates on smearing political opponents as domestic terrorists and effectively silencing, targeting and and pursuing them accordingly, bona fide terrorists, foreign adversaries and violent criminals have been greenlit to act with total impunity. - Newsweek Extreme right wing talking head doesn't like Biden SHOCKER! https://www.newsweek.com/woke-weak-biden-punishes-americans-emboldens-adversaries-opinion-1671921 "smearing political opponents as domestic terrorists"... I mean you've got to be a special kind of "special" to believe that nonsense! 1 hour ago, trastrick said: "The Democratic brand is broken" - Politico https://www.politico.com/news/2021/11/23/dems-joe-biden-infrastructure-midterms-523194 Work to be done certainly, but compared to the car crash currently going on in the Republican party as a result of Trump... pales somewhat. As for policies: https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/usappblog/2020/08/26/in-2020-donald-trump-is-the-republican-partys-only-platform/ "At this year’s Republican National Convention, for the first time in more than 150 years, the GOP decided not to agree a new party platform ahead of the 2020 presidential election, instead deciding to endorse President Trump’s priorities, whatever they might be." 1 hour ago, trastrick said: Sure, with Biden's Party in charge of all three branches of U.S. Government, it's all Trump's fault. The weakness perceived by US allies *is* a direct result of Trump, and lingers like a bad smell... America Is Back. But Can Allies Ever Trust It Again? https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/02/18/biden-allies-europe-trust-return-of-trump/ "Why should we invest anew in the United States when you might give us Trump again" 1 hour ago, trastrick said: Even your left wing media don't buy that anymore. Just a few true believers left now. So you keep saying... with links to extreme right wing talking heads... 'cos that proves the point... right? 1 hour ago, trastrick said: But, good luck with your "narrative" in November. The incumbent almost always loses in the midterms 1 hour ago, trastrick said: We'll see who was right! You'll be able to tell us how the midterm result influences perceptions of the US from abroad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 (edited) Relax Annie! if all you say is true, then the Republicans have no possible chance to take back the House and/or Senate in the upcoming Mid-Term Elections! (edited to include my response to Magilla's excuses for Biden's unpopularity, and consistent blaming of Trump for all Joe's failures!) Time the for the adults in charge of the U.S. to start doing the job to they are getting paid handsomely to do. Blaming the last guy is not very constructive, and we have serious problems facing the World. Edited February 5, 2022 by trastrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magilla Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, trastrick said: if all you say is true, then the Republicans have no possible chance to take back the House and/or Senate in the upcoming Mid-Term Elections! For Republicans, whether it's true or not doesn't appear to matter any more... Nearly half of those who still identify as Republicans appear to have given up on a key premise of democracy: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/05/17/republicans-are-sprinting-away-democracy/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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