Joe Biden The New President Thoughts So Far?

[altus]

20 minutes ago, trastrick said:

 

I read it!

 

Didn't see that part.

 

Care to elaborate?

 

 

I suggest you read it more carefully. Why do you think they are building a personnel database of true believers to replace those in the civil service.

 

Wikipedia's summary if you can't be bothered to look at the project 2025 website fully.

[trastrick]

9 minutes ago, altus said:

 

He claims the election was stolen. That would indicate that no longer being in the White House is not the same thing as him accepting he lost.

 

However, transcripts from immediately after the election, and even his calls to stop counting votes, show he knew he had lost.

 

No need to pore over "transcripts".

 

The very fact that he's running for the office again is enough evidence, that he knows he lost, by stolen, rigging or whatever!

 

 

[altus]

14 minutes ago, trastrick said:

 

No need to pore over "transcripts".

 

The very fact that he's running for the office again is enough evidence, that he knows he lost, by stolen, rigging or whatever!

 

I was pointing out that he knows he lost fair and square, despite his claims otherwise.

[m williamson]

25 minutes ago, trastrick said:

 

He was talking about Putin's strategy if you look at the context.

 

Putin's strategy was successful., he got his prime bits of the Ukraine, and looks like he'll be keeping them.

 

I see, so Trump doesn't have a problem with a country invading another sovereign country if it appears to be a good tactical move?

The fact that invasions inevitably mean the deaths of innocents including children isn't a problem if it's a savvy move?

 

War is not the same as a game of chess. For him to then start sympathising with the invaded is pure hypocrisy and typical of the self loving narcissist that is Trump.

In Trumps opinion those who fight and die for their country are losers and suckers, but the people who send them to die are geniuses and savvy.

 https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/

 

How anyone can seriously defend this excuse for a man is beyond me. Biden is past it, and is no saint himself  - no one is - but he is ten times the man that Trump is.  

Which doesn't mean that much and does not entitle him to serve another term. I've had two close friends who died in the last two years both of whom suffered from dementia. They were not capable of making rational decisions and neither is Biden, he needs to be rescued from his personal delusions.

Trump is also suffering from early onset dementia according to one of his closest allies, include that along with his general obnoxiousness and Biden would be the better choice despite being completely unsuitable himself.

It's a conundrum and that's no mistake.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/16/trump-dementia-claims-steve-bannon-25th-amendment

 

[trastrick]

12 minutes ago, altus said:

 

I suggest you read it more carefully. Why do you think they are building a personnel database of true believers to replace those in the civil service.

 

Wikipedia's summary if you can't be bothered to look at the project 2025 website fully.

 

Project 2025^[a] is a collection of conservative and right-wing policy proposals from the Heritage Foundation  - WIKI

 

(Nothing to do with Donald Trump)

 

In which Republicans seek to restore some balance to the bureaucracy to prevent it being used to promote a single party system.

 

As in Obama's disgraced and removed FBI Top Officials, "We will stop him!", who covered up the Biden Laptop for 5 years, and Obama's CIA Director going on CNN and called Trump a Russian Traitor for 2 years with absolutely no evidence.

 

And slides away until his name appears on the front page of the infamous "52 Intelligence Official say that the Biden Laptop was Russian Misinformation". letter.

 

But back to the Project 2025 thingy.

 

A Presidential candidate gets all sorts of policy proposals from hopeful lobbyists and supporters, but Trump is not beholden to Democrats and Republicans, as he's demonstrated. McConnell, McCain, Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney have been his biggest political enemies, but they all (who could) came back on bended knee to proclaim solidarity with Trump's version of the Republican Party.  😃

 

In fact, Trump, "the Republican presidential candidate renounced any connection with Project 2025, a plan Democrats have been attacking to highlight what they say is Trump's extreme policy agenda for a second term should he beat President Joe Biden in the Nov. 5 election" - Reuters😃

[trastrick]

20 minutes ago, altus said:

 

I was pointing out that he knows he lost fair and square, despite his claims otherwise.

 

No. he'll never accept that, and neither will the electorate, and for that matter neither will I, using the "fair and square". qualification.

 

Based on everything I've written about it here.

 

He lost! Is a fact!

 

Opinions on how and why, is, and will be the subject of historical interest for years to come.😃

[trastrick]

22 minutes ago, m williamson said:

 

I see, so Trump doesn't have a problem with a country invading another sovereign country if it appears to be a good tactical move?

The fact that invasions inevitably mean the deaths of innocents including children isn't a problem if it's a savvy move?

 

War is not the same as a game of chess. For him to then start sympathising with the invaded is pure hypocrisy and typical of the self loving narcissist that is Trump.

In Trumps opinion those who fight and die for their country are losers and suckers, but the people who send them to die are geniuses and savvy.

 https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/

 

How anyone can seriously defend this excuse for a man is beyond me. Biden is past it, and is no saint himself  - no one is - but he is ten times the man that Trump is.  

Which doesn't mean that much and does not entitle him to serve another term. I've had two close friends who died in the last two years both of whom suffered from dementia. They were not capable of making rational decisions and neither is Biden, he needs to be rescued from his personal delusions.

Trump is also suffering from early onset dementia according to one of his closest allies, include that along with his general obnoxiousness and Biden would be the better choice despite being completely unsuitable himself.

It's a conundrum and that's no mistake.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/16/trump-dementia-claims-steve-bannon-25th-amendment

 

 

Repeating the same old, same old, "losers" and "sucker" hearsay, doesn't add anything to your argument. Even the military don't believe that crappola

 

2024 GOVX Election Poll: U.S. Military and First Responders Overwhelmingly Support Trump

 

"GOVX polled nearly 20,000 members with military, first responder, and government service backgrounds on the upcoming election, and Trump has almost 70% of the vote.

 

But I would recommend "The Art of War," by Sun Tzu, and "The Prince" by Machiavelli who's books are on the shelves in every military academy.

 

It is wise for a real Leader, to analyse the enemy's, strengths and weaknesses and acknowledge same. Some are brilliant strategists, some are suicidal maniacs, and some are a combination of both. It depends on whether they achieve their goals, like, say,  Mao Tse Tung, The Viet Cong, and even the Taliban.  Or are defeated, like Hitler, Hirohito, the U.S. in Viet Nam, and Afghanistan.  It has nothing to do with morality or God. You don't win wars on emotion, just cold hard calculations which often require you to accept losses in battle, in order to win the war.

 

They say that Churchill sacrificed the Coventry Blitz, in order to keep the Nazi's from knowing we had cracked the enigma codes, which were instrumental in surviving WW2

 

Acknowledging your enemy, is not supporting your enemy.

 

When United get blown out 8 -0 at the Lane, you better be respectful of their strategy, regardless of how much you hate the other team.

[altus]

1 hour ago, trastrick said:

 

Project 2025^[a] is a collection of conservative and right-wing policy proposals from the Heritage Foundation  - WIKI

 

(Nothing to do with Donald Trump)

 

In which Republicans seek to restore some balance to the bureaucracy to prevent it being used to promote a single party system.

 

As in Obama's disgraced and removed FBI Top Officials, "We will stop him!", who covered up the Biden Laptop for 5 years, and Obama's CIA Director going on CNN and called Trump a Russian Traitor for 2 years with absolutely no evidence.

 

And slides away until his name appears on the front page of the infamous "52 Intelligence Official say that the Biden Laptop was Russian Misinformation". letter.

 

But back to the Project 2025 thingy.

 

A Presidential candidate gets all sorts of policy proposals from hopeful lobbyists and supporters, but Trump is not beholden to Democrats and Republicans, as he's demonstrated. McConnell, McCain, Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney have been his biggest political enemies, but they all (who could) came back on bended knee to proclaim solidarity with Trump's version of the Republican Party.  😃

 

In fact, Trump, "the Republican presidential candidate renounced any connection with Project 2025, a plan Democrats have been attacking to highlight what they say is Trump's extreme policy agenda for a second term should he beat President Joe Biden in the Nov. 5 election" - Reuters😃

 

Project 2025 is a Heritage Foundation led project. Here's what they had to say about Trump in 2018:

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One year after taking office, President Donald Trump and his administration have embraced nearly two-thirds of the policy recommendations from The Heritage Foundation’s “Mandate for Leadership.”

 

The “Mandate for Leadership” series includes five individual publications, totaling approximately 334 unique policy recommendations. Analysis completed by Heritage determined that 64 percent of the policy prescriptions were included in Trump’s budget, implemented through regulatory guidance, or under consideration for action in accordance with The Heritage Foundation’s original proposals.

 

...

 

With approximately 70 former Heritage employees working for the Trump transition team or as part of the administration, the policy recommendations have served as guidelines for reducing the size and scope of the federal government through specific and detailed actions.

 

64% of their proposals were adopted by the Trump administration.

 

Those same former Heritage Foundation employees working in the Trump administration are now back at the Heritage Foundation preparing Project 2025 and, if Trump is re-elected will be back at the White House.

 

Trump might have started disavowing Project 2025 now that people have begun to pay attention to it and are beginning to see the dangers it presents to US democracy, but his claims to know nothing about it when most of his advisers were, and are again, employees of the organisation behind it is simply unbelievable.

[altus]

1 hour ago, trastrick said:

 

No. he'll never accept that, and neither will the electorate, and for that matter neither will I, using the "fair and square". qualification.

 

Based on everything I've written about it here.

 

He lost! Is a fact!

 

Opinions on how and why, is, and will be the subject of historical interest for years to come.😃

 

Knowing and accepting are not the same things. He'll never accept he lost fairly because he's such a big manbaby he thinks him not getting his own way about anything is unfair.

[altus]

44 minutes ago, trastrick said:

 

Repeating the same old, same old, "losers" and "sucker" hearsay, doesn't add anything to your argument. Even the military don't believe that crappola

 

2024 GOVX Election Poll: U.S. Military and First Responders Overwhelmingly Support Trump

 

"GOVX polled nearly 20,000 members with military, first responder, and government service backgrounds on the upcoming election, and Trump has almost 70% of the vote.

 

Oh look. You've quoted someone without providing a link. That's always an indication you're trying to give a misleading impression of the significance of what you are quoting.

 

So who are GOVX? Some sort of shopping discounts site for government employees, with membership heavily mainly from the military. Despite claiming over 8 million members, fewer than 20,000 responded to their poll - so a self selecting sample then.