Longcol Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, trastrick said: Since you were referring to Trump's "deal with the Taliban", I assumed you were familiar with it. But here is the actual Taliban Agreement. https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/Agreement-For-Bringing-Peace-to-Afghanistan-02.29.20.pdf Doen't say anything about " the agreement was conditions-based and the failure of intra-Afghan peace talks to reach a negotiated settlement would have nullified the requirement to withdraw" as you previously stated. Looks pretty much like the agreement with the Afghan Government (as was) but substituting the "Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan which is not recognized by the United States as a state and is known as the Taliban" for "The Islamic Republic of Afghanistan". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 Just now, Longcol said: Doen't say anything about " the agreement was conditions-based and the failure of intra-Afghan peace talks to reach a negotiated settlement would have nullified the requirement to withdraw" as you previously stated. Here it is again: "U.S. officials made clear at the time that the agreement was conditions-based and the failure of intra-Afghan peace talks to reach a negotiated settlement would have nullified the requirement to withdraw. One day before the Doha deal, a top aide to chief U.S. negotiator Zalmay Khalilzad said the agreement was not irreversible, and “there is no obligation for the United States to withdraw troops if the Afghan parties are unable to reach agreement or if the Taliban show bad faith” during negotiations". https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-middle-east-taliban-doha-e6f48507848aef2ee849154604aa11be I'll take the AP News take and the top U.S. Negotiators take on the Agreement, rather than your myopic inablity to read the following Items in the Agreement. ; 3. After the announcement of guarantees for a complete withdrawal of foreign forces and timeline in the presence of international witnesses, and guarantees and the announcement in the presence of international witnesses that Afghan soil will not be used against the security of the United States and its allies, the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan which is not recognized by the United States as a state and is known as the Taliban will start intra-Afghan negotiations with Afghan sides on March 10, 2020, which corresponds to Rajab 15, 1441 on the Hijri Lunar calendar and Hoot 20, 1398 on the Hijri Solar calendar. 4. A permanent and comprehensive ceasefire will be an item on the agenda of the intra-Afghan dialogue and negotiations. The participants of intra-Afghan negotiations will discuss the date and modalities of a permanent and comprehensive ceasefire, including joint implementation mechanisms, which will be announced along with the completion and agreement over the future political roadmap of Afghanistan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 (edited) Duplicate post Edited September 26, 2021 by trastrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 It's time for an update. With Joe Biden, having clinched the White House, Congress, and the deciding vote in the Senate, it should be clear sailing for the Democrats to do all the wonderful things they promised. So what to make of today's headline?: "Biden drops to 38% approval in new national poll" "Majority questioned in poll say Biden administration not competent in running government" https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3824 Any suggestions from our Biden supporters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sibon Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 59 minutes ago, trastrick said: It's time for an update. With Joe Biden, having clinched the White House, Congress, and the deciding vote in the Senate, it should be clear sailing for the Democrats to do all the wonderful things they promised. So what to make of today's headline?: "Biden drops to 38% approval in new national poll" "Majority questioned in poll say Biden administration not competent in running government" https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3824 Any suggestions from our Biden supporters? Yes. Trust in democracy. Or go look for Trump’s “missing” votes. You could rejoice in the fact that the rest of the world are no longer gaping at your President in disbelief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_DADDY Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 12 minutes ago, sibon said: Yes. Trust in democracy. Or go look for Trump’s “missing” votes. You could rejoice in the fact that the rest of the world are no longer gaping at your President in disbelief. Really? , 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magilla Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 1 hour ago, trastrick said: It's time for an update. With Joe Biden, having clinched the White House, Congress, and the deciding vote in the Senate, it should be clear sailing for the Democrats to do all the wonderful things they promised. So what to make of today's headline?: "Biden drops to 38% approval in new national poll" "Majority questioned in poll say Biden administration not competent in running government" https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3824 Hey at least the majority didn't say he was a direct threat to democracy, responsible for the storming of the capital & should be removed from office All Quinnipiac polls! 1 hour ago, trastrick said: Any suggestions from our Biden supporters? According to Quinnipiac, some way to go yet to reach the lows of his predecessor. Probably not the answer you were looking for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sibon Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, The_DADDY said: Really? , 😂 Yes. Really. I know that “really” means nothing to you. Facts too. But to most of us… Edited October 6, 2021 by sibon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longcol Posted October 6, 2021 Share Posted October 6, 2021 On 26/09/2021 at 03:03, trastrick said: Here it is again: "U.S. officials made clear at the time that the agreement was conditions-based and the failure of intra-Afghan peace talks to reach a negotiated settlement would have nullified the requirement to withdraw. One day before the Doha deal, a top aide to chief U.S. negotiator Zalmay Khalilzad said the agreement was not irreversible, and “there is no obligation for the United States to withdraw troops if the Afghan parties are unable to reach agreement or if the Taliban show bad faith” during negotiations". https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-middle-east-taliban-doha-e6f48507848aef2ee849154604aa11be I'll take the AP News take and the top U.S. Negotiators take on the Agreement, rather than your myopic inablity to read the following Items in the Agreement. ; 3. After the announcement of guarantees for a complete withdrawal of foreign forces and timeline in the presence of international witnesses, and guarantees and the announcement in the presence of international witnesses that Afghan soil will not be used against the security of the United States and its allies, the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan which is not recognized by the United States as a state and is known as the Taliban will start intra-Afghan negotiations with Afghan sides on March 10, 2020, which corresponds to Rajab 15, 1441 on the Hijri Lunar calendar and Hoot 20, 1398 on the Hijri Solar calendar. 4. A permanent and comprehensive ceasefire will be an item on the agenda of the intra-Afghan dialogue and negotiations. The participants of intra-Afghan negotiations will discuss the date and modalities of a permanent and comprehensive ceasefire, including joint implementation mechanisms, which will be announced along with the completion and agreement over the future political roadmap of Afghanistan. Lol - neither of those clauses mention the USA troops not withdrawing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_DADDY Posted October 7, 2021 Share Posted October 7, 2021 1 hour ago, sibon said: Yes. Really. I know that “really” means nothing to you. Facts too. But to most of us… If you think Biden looks fit for office then it's you that facts mean nothing to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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