Joe Biden The New President Thoughts So Far?

[Annie Bynnol]

10 hours ago, trastrick said:

 

 

Any  suggestions from our Biden supporters?
 

This is not a football match or some immature playground game where you have to take sides.

 

Your failing and flagging attempts to change this thread into a Biden v Trump, right v left(far right v right in UK terms) to pester us with your own political view misses the overriding viewpoint that the American people are enjoying a period of boredom with politics, extreme views and personalities.

 

Biden is boring -but safe and experienced, that is what got him the Democratic nomination and a huge popular vote majority,

much to the exasperation of many Democrats. 

 

 

 

 

[Tony]

Far too many people allow themselves to get dragged into a culture war where a particular leader or party is held up as if they are responsible for every single thing that happens on their watch. 

 

The machinery of government is much, MUCH bigger than one president.

 

The hard truth is that very little has (or will have) changed under Biden and that very little changed under Trump except the volume of empty rhetoric and the level of hubris / hysteria that mutual opponents can generate at any particular time. 

Edited October 7, 2021 by Tony

[trastrick]

5 hours ago, Annie Bynnol said:

This is not a football match or some immature playground game where you have to take sides.

 

Your failing and flagging attempts to change this thread into a Biden v Trump, right v left(far right v right in UK terms) to pester us with your own political view misses the overriding viewpoint that the American people are enjoying a period of boredom with politics, extreme views and personalities.

 

Biden is boring -but safe and experienced, that is what got him the Democratic nomination and a huge popular vote majority,

much to the exasperation of many Democrats. 

 

 

 

 

The thread asks the question, "Joe Biden The New President Thoughts So Far?"

 

I am curious as to what his fans attribute his rapid fall in job approval from the heady heights you refer to.

 

From 55% positive and 36% negative, to today's 45% positive and 49% negative, since he took office.(RCP Average of National Polls)

 

All I'm hearing is "Trump", Trump, and more Trump".

 

If his predecessor was so bad, he should be enjoying a honeymoon with his voters. 
 

[Tony]

It's a fact that the most respected, loved and well remembered politicians are the ones who did nothing much. JFK and John Smith are premier examples of the phenomenon. People naturally hate other people who do things and achieve lots because it makes them feel stupid and inadequate, it's a primal thing that we can't help because we're basically apes subject to the usual Rules of Nature. The trick is to catch yourself before you fall into the trap but it's difficult to escape the comfort zone of hatred. 

[Annie Bynnol]

34 minutes ago, trastrick said:

The thread asks the question, "Joe Biden The New President Thoughts So Far?"

 

I am curious as to what his fans attribute his rapid fall in job approval from the heady heights you refer to.

 

From 55% positive and 36% negative, to today's 45% positive and 49% negative, since he took office.(RCP Average of National Polls)

 

All I'm hearing is "Trump", Trump, and more Trump".

 

If his predecessor was so bad, he should be enjoying a honeymoon with his voters. 
 

If all you are "...hearing is "Trump", Trump, and more Trump", then you should not keep using "Trump" in the majority of your posts.

If all you are "...hearing is "Trump", Trump, and more Trump", then you should refrain from posting adverts for "Trump" as an example this Trump advert: 

 

"The Greatest economy the world has ever seen, prior to the flue pandemic.
Jobs
Highest employment ever for whites, blacks and asians.
Higher wages
Less dependency on "gummint"
Law and Order (when they let him -see Minneapolis, Kenosha)
Tax cuts
School choice
Repeal of the Death Tax
Repeal of the Obamacare Mandate
Strong borders
U.S. Energy Independence
Strongest Military
300 new conservative Federal Judge appointments
3 new young conservatives on the U.S.Supreme Court for life
Better Trade Deals with China, S.Korea, Japan, Mexico and Canada
Made In the U.S.A Manufacturing
Right to try new drugs
Veteran's choice
Killing Soleimani
Killing Baghdadi
Ending endless wars in the Middle East
Peace Agreement between Arabs and Israel
Peace Agreement between Serbia and Kosovo
Peace Agreement between Afghanistan and the Taliban
Lowering tensions between North and South Korea.
Getting the U.S. Embassy built in Jerusalem
Ending the ISIS Caliphate
No more Russian Invasions of allies like Ukraine
Bringing the U.S. Service Men and Women home!
Getting the Socialist Paradises in Europe, who hate America, to pay more for their own defense.
No more "Death to America" chants and threats from Korea and Mad Mullahs in Iran
No more sending billions of dollars to Iran to finance terrorism
No more $billions in fees, salaries, "donations" and investment portfolios, from Ukraine, Russia and China for the Biden and Clinton families, while in office!" "

 

My underlining just highlights a few  inaccuracies.  

[trastrick]

Here's The New York Times, who endorsed Joe for President.

 

"An Ethically Challenged Presidency"
Oct. 5, 2021

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/05/opinion/biden-ethics-son.html

"There should be little doubt that President Biden was not being truthful when, days after the Taliban’s victory, he told ABC News that his senior military advisers had not urged him to keep some 2,500 troops in Afghanistan. The president’s claim was flatly contradicted last week in sworn testimony from Gen. Mark Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and Gen. Kenneth McKenzie Jr., the head of U.S. Central Command.

 

During the generals’ testimony, the White House press secretary, Jen Psaki, sought to defend her boss by pointing to a line in Biden’s interview in which he appeared to suggest that the military’s advice “was split.”

Another whopper. What split? As The Times’s Helene Cooper, Eric Schmitt and David Sanger reported in April, right after Lloyd Austin was sworn in as secretary of defense in January, he and his top generals “were in lock step in recommending that about 3,000 to 4,500 troops stay in Afghanistan.” Asked whether there were top military advisers who argued otherwise, Psaki evaded the question.

 

Biden’s dissembling, regarding the worst-executed major foreign policy decision in years, would be a scandal in any presidency. It’s worse coming from the man who campaigned for office by insisting that he stood “for honor and telling the truth.”

 

Et tu NYT? BUyers remorse?

Edited October 7, 2021 by trastrick

[trastrick]

51 minutes ago, Annie Bynnol said:

If all you are "...hearing is "Trump", Trump, and more Trump", then you should not keep using "Trump" in the majority of your posts.

If all you are "...hearing is "Trump", Trump, and more Trump", then you should refrain from posting adverts for "Trump" as an example this Trump advert: 

 

"The Greatest economy the world has ever seen, prior to the flue pandemic.
Jobs
Highest employment ever for whites, blacks and asians.
Higher wages
Less dependency on "gummint"
Law and Order (when they let him -see Minneapolis, Kenosha)
Tax cuts
School choice
Repeal of the Death Tax
Repeal of the Obamacare Mandate
Strong borders
U.S. Energy Independence
Strongest Military
300 new conservative Federal Judge appointments
3 new young conservatives on the U.S.Supreme Court for life
Better Trade Deals with China, S.Korea, Japan, Mexico and Canada
Made In the U.S.A Manufacturing
Right to try new drugs
Veteran's choice
Killing Soleimani
Killing Baghdadi
Ending endless wars in the Middle East
Peace Agreement between Arabs and Israel
Peace Agreement between Serbia and Kosovo
Peace Agreement between Afghanistan and the Taliban
Lowering tensions between North and South Korea.
Getting the U.S. Embassy built in Jerusalem
Ending the ISIS Caliphate
No more Russian Invasions of allies like Ukraine
Bringing the U.S. Service Men and Women home!
Getting the Socialist Paradises in Europe, who hate America, to pay more for their own defense.
No more "Death to America" chants and threats from Korea and Mad Mullahs in Iran
No more sending billions of dollars to Iran to finance terrorism
No more $billions in fees, salaries, "donations" and investment portfolios, from Ukraine, Russia and China for the Biden and Clinton families, while in office!" "

 

My underlining just highlights a few  inaccuracies.  

But how IS Joe doing?

 

Lol

56 minutes ago, Tony said:

It's a fact that the most respected, loved and well remembered politicians are the ones who did nothing much. JFK and John Smith are premier examples of the phenomenon. People naturally hate other people who do things and achieve lots because it makes them feel stupid and inadequate, it's a primal thing that we can't help because we're basically apes subject to the usual Rules of Nature. The trick is to catch yourself before you fall into the trap but it's difficult to escape the comfort zone of hatred. 

You're in good company.

 

Einstein said something  very similar:

 

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds. The mediocre mind is incapable of understanding the man who refuses to bow blindly to conventional prejudices and chooses instead to express his opinions courageously and honestly."

[Annie Bynnol]

45 minutes ago, trastrick said:

But how IS Joe doing?

 

 

On what issue?

[Box11]

2 hours ago, trastrick said:

But how IS Joe doing?

 

Lol

You're in good company.

 

Einstein said something  very similar:

 

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds. The mediocre mind is incapable of understanding the man who refuses to bow blindly to conventional prejudices and chooses instead to express his opinions courageously and honestly."

That’s a fantastic quote from “Einstein” never heard that before !!!!!.....

 

I’ll be doing more research on him at the weekend yet again brilliant quote !!!!!....

Edited October 7, 2021 by Box11

[trastrick]

On 06/10/2021 at 19:14, Longcol said:

Lol - neither of those clauses mention the USA troops not withdrawing.

Your argument appears to be with AP News.

 

Go take it up with them. Lol

 

""U.S. officials made clear at the time that the (Doha Cease Fire) agreement was conditions-based and the failure of intra-Afghan peace talks to reach a negotiated settlement would have nullified the requirement to withdraw. One day before the Doha deal, a top aide to chief U.S. negotiator Zalmay Khalilzad said the agreement was not irreversible, and “there is no obligation for the United States to withdraw troops if the Afghan parties are unable to reach agreement or if the Taliban show bad faith” during negotiations".
https://apnews.com/article/joe-biden-middle-east-taliban-doha-e6f48507848aef2ee849154604aa11be