Putin's Wargame - Ukraine

[Magilla]

 

2 minutes ago, trastrick said:

Military casualties are recorded and published by the U.S. Congressional Reasearch Services. For all those not too lazy, or afraid to look!

 

Lol

 

See:

 

https://fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/IF10899.pdf

Which does not mention civilian casualties at all!

 

LOL...

 

...you know the people dropping the bombs tend not to be those killed by them when they explode... right?

[trastrick]

50 minutes ago, Magilla said:

 

Which does not mention civilian casualties at all!

 

LOL...

 

...you know the people dropping the bombs tend not to be those killed by them when they explode... right?

Slippery  little critter aren't you.?

 

Here we are discussing American politics, where the "body bag count" as commonly refers to the returning of U.S. military Servicemen and women in body bags.

 

It was the subject of the CNN count down under G. W. Bush.

 

Lol

 

You are now boring me.

 

Have a nice day!

 

[butlers]

It does make you wonder if Trump had been in office in 2001 how  resistant to war he might have been.

 

Bush jnr of course  holds most culpability easy to start wars , difficult to end them

 

Think the sooner we can get Ukraine into Nato the better.

 

[GabrielC]

1 hour ago, butlers said:

It does make you wonder if Trump had been in office in 2001 how  resistant to war he might have been.

 

Bush jnr of course  holds most culpability easy to start wars , difficult to end them

 

Think the sooner we can get Ukraine into Nato the better.

 

Thats the problem if Ukraine  is allowed into NATO that makes it harder for Putin better to strike first and show a bit of military might to show Ukraine the errors of its ways.  

[Magilla]

2 hours ago, trastrick said:

Slippery  little critter aren't you.?

 

Here we are discussing American politics, where the "body bag count" as commonly refers to the returning of U.S. military Servicemen and women in body bags.

...because they're the only ones that matter... my mistake!

 

I explicitly qualified "civilian deaths" in my initial response so my interpretation was clear.

[trastrick]

If your selective memory is not addled, you may recall it was only only the Democrat Party which deliberately targeted innocent civilians, women and children, when they dropped Atomic Bombs on two major Japanese cities.

 

The "final solution!."

Edited April 20, 2021 by trastrick

[altus]

1 hour ago, GabrielC said:

Thats the problem if Ukraine  is allowed into NATO that makes it harder for Putin better to strike first and show a bit of military might to show Ukraine the errors of its ways.  

Putin's only got himself to blame for former Soviet republics rushing to align themselves to the West. After his invasion of Georgia in 2008, they realised there was nothing to stop him doing the same to them. As a result many of them decided that joining NATO was the only way to dissuade him and they pleaded to be allowed to join. Much as some would like to blame the EU, it was far more Putin's actions making them fear for their new found independence driving them West than them being lured by the EU.

[butlers]

And the cyber attacks on the Baltic countries and big military moves on Finland's borders.

Putin longs for the old days of  the warsaw pact.

 

[Longcol]

9 hours ago, West 77 said:

The EU and Obama are to blame for Putin and Russia getting stronger and becoming more of a threat. The EU shouldn't have expanded eastwards and Obama should have attacked the Assad regime in Syria when the red line was crossed.  Putin is a strong leader of his country and certainly knows the best way to deal with national traitors. 

So anyone oppossing Putin is a traitor? You don't seem too keen on democracy.

[butlers]

And presumably free press too?

 

How many journalists have been killed in Russia 

Edited April 20, 2021 by butlers