Chauvin Guilty Of George Floyd's Murder

[butlers]

And yet a doctor in respiratory medicine who was called to testify said it's entirely possible to  shout for help while being choked to the point of unconsciousness

[Delbow]

11 minutes ago, butlers said:

And yet a doctor in respiratory medicine who was called to testify said it's entirely possible to  shout for help while being choked to the point of unconsciousness

Surely a random on Sheffield Forum knows better?

 

Edit: sorry, I just realised this is in the Pulmonary Specialist subforum, my mistake!

Edited April 21, 2021 by Delbow

[butlers]

It was muder in the third degree.

He might only get 12years.

 

Knowing the ludicrous sentencing in US presumably if it was premeditated he might have got Life plus 20/30 extra  for aggravating cause.

Be interesting what the sentence ends up being.

Doubtless an appeal will be made

[hackey lad]

1 hour ago, Resident said:

I guess we'll just ignore the fact that GF was shouting this long before he was restrained on the floor and the fact that someone who can't breath could not possibly continually shout for that long. 

At most it was unlawful killing by negligence. 

 

 

Yes . He was saying he could not breathe as they tried to put him in the car .

[Delbow]

And the myotonic seizure he had through lack of oxygen was just him trying to run away, no doubt. You know what 'they' are like.

[onewheeldave]

4 hours ago, butlers said:

I would argue the most dangerous precedent would be officers are above the law.

 And remember that officer was happy to do that in full view of the public, what if there was no film.He would nigh on certain been aquitted 

 

 

3 hours ago, The_DADDY said:

But he wasn't acquitted and there was film. 

Yes, luckily there was footage, which is the only reason this went to court. Usually, of course, there is no footage, so safe to assume that in the US many black people have/are/will be similarly killed by police and it won't go to court.

[butlers]

I don't get the point of saying   Floyd George was saying could not breathe as they got him out of the car..what does this prove exactly ?

The police response was to  put a choke hold on him while restrained until  he was unresponsive  and continue for minutes more until he was dead 

 

Edited April 21, 2021 by butlers

[hackey lad]

Not a choke hold 

 

[butlers]

Turns out Minneapolis police have rendered 66 people unconscious in last few years

[hackey lad]

21 hours ago, Delbow said:

Yes, 2nd and 3rd degree murder, and manslaughter.

 

Why do you think that? I've been following the trial and, although it's obviously not the same as being there and hearing all the evidence, the evidence from the prosecution witnesses seemed pretty compelling, while the defence arguments were sometimes bizarre in their 'whataboutery'

Out of interest where/ how have you been following the trial ?  I have been following some of it on one of the  most biased ,one sided  station Ive  seen