The Dup Madwagon Rolls On

[Delbow]

34 minutes ago, harvey19 said:

It determines where 1 country ends and another one starts.

Oh I see, you thought all borders were the same!

[Delbow]

And what proportion of people living in the UK are mad keen on the DUP and their ilk remaining in the UK?

[altus]

1 hour ago, West 77 said:

Just to help out the confused the map below shows where the border is.  The border is where the red area meets the emerald green area.  Just for completeness the red area is part of the UK and the emerald green area belongs to the EU. The DUP are big supporters of being part of the UK and most certainly don't want to belong to the EU. 

 

 

Making a big fuss about the DUP not wanting to remain in the EU is somewhat undermined by the fact that, even including DUP supporters, the area in red voted to remain in the EU.

[Guest sibon]

2 hours ago, West 77 said:

Just to help out the confused the map below shows where the border is.  The border is where the red area meets the emerald green area.  Just for completeness the red area is part of the UK and the emerald green area belongs to the EU. The DUP are big supporters of being part of the UK and most certainly don't want to belong to the EU. 

 

 

Have you cleared that version of the border with the PM?

[Magilla]

57 minutes ago, West 77 said:

100% of proud British people who aren't terrorist sympathisers living in the UK.                         

None then

[Delbow]

1 hour ago, West 77 said:

100% of proud British people who aren't terrorist sympathisers living in the UK.                         

Hahaha christ

[Magilla]

2 hours ago, West 77 said:

I understand the DUP were the only political party with seats in the Westminster parliament who campaigned to leave the EU.  That makes DUP the only winners out of all the political parties who have MPs in the Westminster parliament.

Not really since that campaigning led to a disastrous general election result in 2019, with its deputy leader losing his seat...

 

... and for the first time, nationalists won more seats than unionists.

 

The DUPs popularity continues to wane, as a result of their actions re: Brexit, with the Alliance party picking up the slack.

 

The DUP can't stand much more winning!

[altus]

2 hours ago, West 77 said:

The area in red is part of the UK where the majority voted to leave the EU.  About 55% of the Northern Ireland electorate voted to remain which is less than the 60% of the London electorate who voted to remain.  The 45% of the Northern Ireland electorate just like 40% of the London electorate and 52% of the Sheffield electorate were on the winning side and rightly have had their democratic wish respected which was to leave the EU.  I understand the DUP were the only political party with seats in the Westminster parliament who campaigned to leave the EU.  That makes DUP the only winners out of all the political parties who have MPs in the Westminster parliament.

With the DUP's poor performance in the 2019 elections and the discontent of the loyalists over the NI protocol it doesn't look like those who voted for Brexit in NI feel like they won. It appears that what they really voted for is an accelerated reunification and NI rejoining the EU.

Edited May 19, 2021 by altus

[Magilla]

46 minutes ago, West 77 said:

Sinn Féin (IRA) who supported remaining in the EU also lost support in the 2019 General Election. Both Sinn Féin (IRA)  and the DUP lost votes to the Alliance Party.

You missed (UVF, UDA) after the DUP?

 

The Alliance "we believe there is no such thing as a good or sensible Brexit" Party, campaigned in 2019 on a platform of:

• A People's Vote to reconsider Brexit, with the option to remain in the EU.
• The whole of the UK remaining in the Single Market and Customs Union.

 

Leader Naomi Long: "Brexit is a mess"...

 

...no wonder they're hoovering up  votes!

 

46 minutes ago, West 77 said:

Of course those who voted for Brexit in Northern Ireland won because the UK are no longer in the EU.

That depends, now they're not entirely in the UK either... there's a border between them and the rest of the UK!

 

46 minutes ago, West 77 said:

Just like Scottish Independence the reunification of Ireland isn't going to happen any time soon. Why on earth would both Northern Ireland and Scotland wish to lose all the benefits and prestige being part of the UK brings?

The same reasons the UK decided to lose all the benefits and prestige being part of the EU brings...

 

...and, if either of them do leave then it's not the UK, and Great Britain will not be great, any more!

 

A huge drop in prestige!

 

46 minutes ago, West 77 said:

There is more chance of either Northern Ireland or Scotland winning the football World Cup than either of then leaving the UK.

On balance  I'd say there's a better chance of them leaving before England win the World Cup, that's for sure!

[altus]

1 hour ago, West 77 said:

Of course those who voted for Brexit in Northern Ireland won because the UK are no longer in the EU.

So you're arguing it's possible to leave the EU but stay in the EU's single market now.

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Just like Scottish Independence the reunification of Ireland isn't going to happen any time soon.

Never said it would happen soon, just sooner than it otherwise would.

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Why on earth would both Northern Ireland and Scotland wish to lose all the benefits and prestige being part of the UK brings?

Presumably because they think the benefits and prestige of being part of the EU is greater than the benefits and prestige of being in the UK.