tinfoilhat Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 20 minutes ago, alchresearch said: I read that if you don't have passport or driving licence then you'll be able to apply for a free photo ID anyway. I'd much rather they concentrate on getting voter turnout up. People died for votes and people can't be bothered to walk a few hundred yards to a polling station. You don't even have to vote LIB, LAB or CON, give your vote to the greens. How long will it take to get one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHasRisen Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Just now, tinfoilhat said: How long will it take to get one? Who knows, but its hardly a state secret as to when most elections are being held, people will just have to be proactive and sort it in good time, anyone who applies for one the day before an election is going to be disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffbag Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 2 hours ago, tinfoilhat said: They'll have an idea from council elections. Shave off a solid Labour (or tory) wards from constituency to another - it's not hard to work out. Again, when it comes to the original post regarding Rotherham council elections I replied to, that comment is a load of rubbish. What "solid tory" wards were there in Rotherham at the last council elections that the boundaries could be altered to make more Tory or blend with another ........... Zero To give the facts to counter the unfounded opinion 2016 council elections - Labour 77016 votes, Conservative 11871 - Total 88887 2021 council elections - Labour 50686 votes, Conservative 34833 - Total 85519 As a percentage of the combined Lab/Con vote 2016 - Lab 86.7%, Con 13.3% 2021 - Lab 59.3% Con 40.7% That has nothing to do with an odd boundary change, that is simply 26000+ votes less for Labour for whatever reason the voters chose and 23000 more votes for the Conservatives - Thats not hard to work out is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Allen Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Meh, I'm in the process of applying for a British Passport to use as ID for applying for jobs because I knew the clueless halfwits in London would come up with this daft plan to make ID cards compulsory! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHasRisen Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Where has it said ID cards are going to be compulsory? I think you need to go and read it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 47 minutes ago, HeHasRisen said: Who knows, but its hardly a state secret as to when most elections are being held, people will just have to be proactive and sort it in good time, anyone who applies for one the day before an election is going to be disappointed. But then there will be rush. If im moving house and my free ID is delayed, can i use my old one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHasRisen Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said: But then there will be rush. If im moving house and my free ID is delayed, can i use my old one? Are you planning on changing your appearance as well when you move house? To give a serious answer - how on earth does anyone know yet? Wait for the details to come out first. To be fair if you are part way through moving house the vote will likely be registered against the old address anyway, voting cards are sent out a few weeks before the vote normally. Edited May 13, 2021 by HeHasRisen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altus Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 The reason the photo ID to vote requirement was introduced in NI was because there was evidence of paramilitaries organising voter impersonation. There is no evidence that has happened elsewhere in the country so the fact it happens in NI is no justification for an ID requirement elsewhere. Surely if you think there might be a problem you investigate whether there is one rather than waste tax payers' money on something that is not needed. Here's former Conservative Party leader in Scotland Ruth Davidson's take on it: Quote They can’t cite any evidence of [electoral fraud being a problem] because I don’t think there’s ever any evidence to cite. I think in terms of this particular part of the Queen’s speech, I think it’s total ********, and I think it’s trying to give a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist, and that makes it politics as performance. And I think that given where we are and the year we’ve had, we’ve got real problems to solve in this country, and the idea that this is some sort of legislative priority I think is for the birds. and a video version if you want to hear it from her own mouth. It's difficult to see this an anything other than voter suppression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHasRisen Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 "It's difficult to see this an anything other than voter suppression." All these people being stopped for applying for either a) a free photo ID and/or b) a postal vote, are they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Just now, HeHasRisen said: Are you planning on changing your appearance as well when you move house? No. But will it need to changed when I move house? I don't know. Do you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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