Photo Id To Vote - Voter Suppression Or Election Fraud Prevention?

[HeHasRisen]

Just now, tinfoilhat said:

No. But will it need to changed when I move house? I don't know. Do you know?

 

I already added a bit to my last post, and I know as much as you.

[tinfoilhat]

55 minutes ago, HeHasRisen said:

Who knows, but its hardly a state secret as to when most elections are being held, people will just have to be proactive and sort it in good time,  anyone who applies for one the day before an election is going to be disappointed. 

Forgot this bit. The government have to give 25 days notice - no more. I've no idea how long it will take to get ID. Do you?

[RollingJ]

1 minute ago, tinfoilhat said:

No. But will it need to changed when I move house? I don't know. Do you know?

 

Does anyone, until the final format is decided, which could be months (years?) away?

[HeHasRisen]

Just now, tinfoilhat said:

Forgot this bit. The government have to give 25 days notice - no more. I've no idea how long it will take to get ID. Do you?

My point was the dates for local elections and PCC elections are set in stone for months, the only ones that are sprung upon us are usually General elections and the odd by-election.

 

I have no idea how long it takes, woe betide people being proactive and getting one sorted as soon as they are released, rather than fannying around until an election is called and cutting it fine.  Would you apply for a passport 3/4 weeks before going on holiday? No sensible person would, so as soon as these come out people should apply for one ASAP if they are actually serious about voting.

Edited May 13, 2021 by HeHasRisen

[tinfoilhat]

20 minutes ago, sheffbag said:

Again, when it comes to the original post regarding Rotherham council elections I replied to, that comment is a load of rubbish.

 

What "solid tory" wards were there in Rotherham at the last council elections that the boundaries could be altered to make more Tory or blend with another ........... Zero

 

To give the facts to counter the unfounded opinion

2016 council elections  - Labour 77016 votes, Conservative 11871 - Total 88887

2021 council elections - Labour 50686 votes, Conservative 34833 - Total 85519

As a percentage of the combined Lab/Con vote 

2016 - Lab 86.7%, Con 13.3%

2021 - Lab 59.3% Con 40.7%

 

That has nothing to do with an odd boundary change, that is simply 26000+ votes less for Labour for whatever reason the voters chose and 23000 more votes for the Conservatives  - Thats not hard to work out is it?

If you are going to use one solitary constituency for the basis of your entire argument, then no it can't be done because EVERY constituency is just like Rotherham.

 

And are they moving Rotherham borders?

[RollingJ]

2 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

Forgot this bit. The government have to give 25 days notice - no more. I've no idea how long it will take to get ID. Do you?

If it is organised properly - shouldn't be that long. My Senior Travel Card was delivered 4 working days after I requested it,  my Senior Railcard 3 working days.

[HeHasRisen]

You can throw theoreticals in all day long.

 

"What if I lose it down a gutter?"

"What if the dog eats it?"

"What if it goes through the wash?"

 

Your username gives the game away, just admit you are a bit paranoid about photo ID and we can all move on

Edited May 13, 2021 by HeHasRisen

[sheffbag]

4 hours ago, classicfan said:

I am more concerned with the pathetically low turnouts at elections than identifying the individual casting a vote. I agree it shouldn't be a cause for concern given this fact. I would favour compulsory voting. The boundary changes certainly were designed to give the Tories an advantage in Rotherham and it worked with devastating effect.

 

6 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

If you are going to use one solitary constituency for the basis of your entire argument, then no it can't be done because EVERY constituency is just like Rotherham.

 

And are they moving Rotherham borders?

I used one solitary constituency because i was replying to Classicfans post stating " The boundary changes certainly were designed to give the Tories an advantage in Rotherham and it worked with devastating effect" 

Rotherham changed wards from 21 to 25 and seats from 63 to 59 to represent an equal number of the population per councillor (i may have the 21 to 25 the wrong way round)

Thats why i called Classicfans comment rubbish but its factually wrong and your comment rubbish because you commented on mine when i was specifically speaking about Rotherham (in response to Classicfan) when the facts bear out the truth.

[tinfoilhat]

6 minutes ago, HeHasRisen said:

My point was the dates for local elections and PCC elections are set in stone for months, the only ones that are sprung upon us are usually General elections and the odd by-election.

 

I have no idea how long it takes, woe betide people being proactive and getting one sorted as soon as they are released, rather than fannying around until an election is called and cutting it fine.

True enough - and given the low turnouts of local elections it's probably not a huge deal. 

1 minute ago, sheffbag said:

 

I used one solitary constituency because i was replying to Classicfans post stating " The boundary changes certainly were designed to give the Tories an advantage in Rotherham and it worked with devastating effect" 

Rotherham changed wards from 21 to 25 and seats from 63 to 59 to represent an equal number of the population per councillor (i may have the 21 to 25 the wrong way round)

Thats why i called Classicfans comment rubbish but its factually wrong and your comment rubbish because you commented on mine when i was specifically speaking about Rotherham (in response to Classicfan) when the facts bear out the truth.

Carry on then. I'm sure those borders in Rotherham  are safe.

[sheffbag]

13 minutes ago, tinfoilhat said:

Forgot this bit. The government have to give 25 days notice - no more. I've no idea how long it will take to get ID. Do you?

Considering you would have a rough idea of when an election is probably going to happen then would you leave it to the last minute to apply.

 

As a response though, applied for sons driving licence online last month, received it inside a week. Last time i did Passport renewal took 2 week.