hauxwell Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/i-locked-up-psychopath-colin-24307166 It looks as though Pitchfork is out on a Jolly for the day, that’s one thing his poor victims will never be able to do He doesn’t look like a man with a conscience to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_DADDY Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 This really does bother me. This man raped and murdered 2 children. The more I read about it the less I understand why he's being released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECCOnoob Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 (edited) He is being released because the parole board have assessed him fit to do so. They reached its decision independent, with full context, full facts and applying the relevant laws and regulations. They are professionals who are not subject to the sort of emotive, reactionary and uninformed opinion of bystanders nor the hysterical, speculative, sensationalszed and biased opinions of media outlets looking to generate hype to sell their product. Whether people like it or not, we don't lock away and throw away the key in this country. This man was convicted, sentenced and served their time and tariff as set by the judge. The only authorised authority has made the decision to release and should not feel bullied or harassed by the masses throwing around their opinions. Asking any lay member of the public whether a convicted criminal should be released will never lead to the answer being yes - so that's why ill-informed lay members of the public off the street don't get a say. Good grief, if the Board buckled every time there was push back on their decision the prisons will be overflowing and the whole concept of punish AND rehabilitation would be worthless. As for that Mirror article, quite frankly what's it got to do with him. He was a QC on the conviction side so what else is he supposed to say. Shock horror he disagrees with the decision of the parole board and makes completely uncorroborated guesses at what a court might have done if presented with such case today. Hardly rational evidence. Just a nice little earner from the Daily Mirror for some words from a has been. Articles like that and the twitterati throwing their opinions emphasises the reason why the parole board decision making is so needed to be independent. Edited June 21, 2021 by ECCOnoob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_DADDY Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 And if he repeats his crimes? That has been know to happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinfoilhat Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 51 minutes ago, ECCOnoob said: He is being released because the parole board have assessed him fit to do so. They reached its decision independent, with full context, full facts and applying the relevant laws and regulations. They are professionals who are not subject to the sort of emotive, reactionary and uninformed opinion of bystanders nor the hysterical, speculative, sensationalszed and biased opinions of media outlets looking to generate hype to sell their product. Whether people like it or not, we don't lock away and throw away the key in this country. This man was convicted, sentenced and served their time and tariff as set by the judge. The only authorised authority has made the decision to release and should not feel bullied or harassed by the masses throwing around their opinions. Asking any lay member of the public whether a convicted criminal should be released will never lead to the answer being yes - so that's why ill-informed lay members of the public off the street don't get a say. Good grief, if the Board buckled every time there was push back on their decision the prisons will be overflowing and the whole concept of punish AND rehabilitation would be worthless. As for that Mirror article, quite frankly what's it got to do with him. He was a QC on the conviction side so what else is he supposed to say. Shock horror he disagrees with the decision of the parole board and makes completely uncorroborated guesses at what a court might have done if presented with such case today. Hardly rational evidence. Just a nice little earner from the Daily Mirror for some words from a has been. Articles like that and the twitterati throwing their opinions emphasises the reason why the parole board decision making is so needed to be independent. That goes on the assumption that parole boards never get it wrong. I watched a programme where a guy was convicted of kidnapping,rape and attempted murder of a child, was released after 3 years and went onto kill 5 - at least. I'm all for rehabilitation but this looks wrong. Two calculated, pretty sadistic killings some time apart. I'm not sure that's something that can be rehabilitated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delbow Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 9 hours ago, ECCOnoob said: He is being released because the parole board have assessed him fit to do so. They reached its decision independent, with full context, full facts and applying the relevant laws and regulations. They are professionals who are not subject to the sort of emotive, reactionary and uninformed opinion of bystanders nor the hysterical, speculative, sensationalszed and biased opinions of media outlets looking to generate hype to sell their product. Whether people like it or not, we don't lock away and throw away the key in this country. This man was convicted, sentenced and served their time and tariff as set by the judge. The only authorised authority has made the decision to release and should not feel bullied or harassed by the masses throwing around their opinions. Asking any lay member of the public whether a convicted criminal should be released will never lead to the answer being yes - so that's why ill-informed lay members of the public off the street don't get a say. Good grief, if the Board buckled every time there was push back on their decision the prisons will be overflowing and the whole concept of punish AND rehabilitation would be worthless. As for that Mirror article, quite frankly what's it got to do with him. He was a QC on the conviction side so what else is he supposed to say. Shock horror he disagrees with the decision of the parole board and makes completely uncorroborated guesses at what a court might have done if presented with such case today. Hardly rational evidence. Just a nice little earner from the Daily Mirror for some words from a has been. Articles like that and the twitterati throwing their opinions emphasises the reason why the parole board decision making is so needed to be independent. A sensible post, albeit laced with the usual pomposity and superiority. I mean, the parole board can get it wrong (cf. John Warboys, who they did a reverse on) but obviously they have access to much more information than the rest of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 (edited) On 21/06/2021 at 23:56, The_DADDY said: And if he repeats his crimes? That has been know to happen He goes back to prison and dies in prison, don't forget there's also a lot of restrictions and legal requirements for his release too to limit reoffending Edited June 23, 2021 by melthebell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_DADDY Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 27 minutes ago, melthebell said: He goes back to prison and dies in prison, don't forget there's also a lot of restrictions and legal requirements for his release too to limit reoffending I think I'd be more comfortable if he was to just stay in prison. Why run the risk of him murdering again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melthebell Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 27 minutes ago, The_DADDY said: I think I'd be more comfortable if he was to just stay in prison. Why run the risk of him murdering again? thats not how prison works in this country, why not just lock everybody up just in case 10 of them become murderers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_DADDY Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 9 minutes ago, melthebell said: thats not how prison works in this country, why not just lock everybody up just in case 10 of them become murderers? Because that would be stupid. Anyway, let's hope Mr Pitchfork has 100% reformed and he doesn't decide he's going to rape and murder any more children 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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