top4718 Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 26 minutes ago, Carbuncle said: It seems different to me. In order for your analogy to hold there would need to be large numbers of sighted individuals passing themselves off as blind for the purpose of allowing their dog to travel in the taxi. My suspicion is that if the shopkeeper can demonstrate that he has behaved reasonably, ie he has thought about the matter and has determined that there is a greater need (recognized in law) that overrides. Perhaps you could quote the statute you are relying on? You are still failing to understand that masks are not ppe. FFP3 mask are the only things that will stop airborne particles, doesn't matter whether its for PPE or a virus the principle is the same, the flimsy masks most people wear are to prevent water droplets and will not stop particles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longcol Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, top4718 said: FFP3 mask are the only things that will stop airborne particles, doesn't matter whether its for PPE or a virus the principle is the same, the flimsy masks most people wear are to prevent water droplets and will not stop particles. It's about reducing the viral load, not totally preventing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sibon Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 1 minute ago, top4718 said: FFP3 mask are the only things that will stop airborne particles, doesn't matter whether its for PPE or a virus the principle is the same, the flimsy masks most people wear are to prevent water droplets and will not stop particles. They aren’t there to stop airborne particles. The internet needs a mask to stop serial idiots from posting the same misinformation over and over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbuncle Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, top4718 said: FFP3 mask are the only things that will stop airborne particles, doesn't matter whether its for PPE or a virus the principle is the same, the flimsy masks most people wear are to prevent water droplets and will not stop particles. Wrong. FFP2 masks also stop particles and so will lots of other things. Many FFP3 will also fail to stop particles being breathed out by the wearer. Edited July 4, 2021 by Carbuncle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest makapaka Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 43 minutes ago, top4718 said: I've read of people that have been abused (physically and sexually) that cannot stand to have their mouth covered and breathing restricted by a mask, its not always a physical illness. Well they would fall into the category of having mental distress from it wouldn’t they? no issue with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top4718 Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, Carbuncle said: Wrong. FFP2 masks also stop particles and so will lots of other things. Many FFP3 will also fail to stop particles being breathed out by the wearer. No basic mask is going to totally prevent it but FFP3 are the current industry standard, the wearer has to have face fit training for whatever manufacturer masks are used. Mask with mechanical ventilation are the best of the best but impractical in most cases. 15 minutes ago, sibon said: They aren’t there to stop airborne particles. The internet needs a mask to stop serial idiots from posting the same misinformation over and over again. You get digging your bunker and let us normal people get on with our day to day lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbuncle Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 1 minute ago, top4718 said: No basic mask is going to totally prevent it but FFP3 are the current industry standard, the wearer has to have face fit training for whatever manufacturer masks are used. Mask with mechanical ventilation are the best of the best but impractical in most cases. Not relevant. Mere diversion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top4718 Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 48 minutes ago, Longcol said: Links would be handy. Stigmatised by the Covid cult. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/society/2020/aug/10/survivors-say-they-are-being-stigmatised-for-not-wearing-masks Just now, Carbuncle said: Not relevant. Mere diversion. Not relevant because it’s true 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbuncle Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 FFP3 masks do not (typically?) protect others from your outbreath. During fit testing no test is made of whether your mask is filtering your outbreath. Hence irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top4718 Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, Carbuncle said: FFP3 masks do not (typically?) protect others from your outbreath. During fit testing no test is made of whether your mask is filtering your outbreath. Hence irrelevant. The BMJ are recommending them for all health staff but what do they know 😂 You stick to your flimsy nonsense if that’s what you believe. 14 days to go and hopefully they’re gone. Anyway Mondays here again, us workers will have to go and face the wicked world again. Sleep tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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