What Are People Paying For Gardeners?

[carosio]

I believe that the taxman urges businesses to register for VAT if the latter think they might be on or over the threshold at the end of the tax year.

 

20% is quite a chunk to pay over to the government on top of services rendered, although if the business is not registered for VAT then that's a prize worth having?

[Janus]

3 hours ago, Bargepole23 said:

Don't understand the good man bit. Are those charging 12.50 an hour not good? Not exactly a making a fortune at that rate.

It  is ok, because the post was for Cid. I believe he is a good man based on  our communications. 🖒

Edited July 3, 2021 by Janus
Typo.

[Janus]

3 hours ago, El Cid said:

I agree, but I do some neighbours gardens for free. An old guy who I thought would never cut his lawn. So before it got too long, I cut it with my petrol mower, it takes 5 minutes.

I have done next doors garden, she is a nurse, rather than just clapping for the NHS, help them out.

Just seen your post Cid. Thank you for doing what you do. I wish there were  more people like you.

[ukdobby]

Seen many a Gardner in S11,S7,S10,I maybe wrong but I bet they don't charge £12.50 a hour.

[Waldo]

9 hours ago, carosio said:

20% is quite a chunk to pay

Ah yeah, current VAT rate is 20%, not 17.5%; I was living like a decade in the past!

[Annie Bynnol]

On 03/07/2021 at 13:34, trastrick said:

I was born in Sheffield, during the war, to a single mother, and I can assure you I have traveled the World extensively.  Nobody "tied me down".

 

We kids didn't leave our dear mother to be looked after by the government.

 

As for being a foreign resident, I take an interest in government expenditures because in addition to the $millions I paid in taxes from my Canadian Business over 40 years,, I paid taxes for 7 years in Britain, and never received a penny in return. I don't even qualify for a full Canadian pension. My taxes took care of the needs of a lot of people,  so don't lecture me

 

The term "foreign" when describing a person sounds a bit discriminatory, don't you think?

 

Especially when a lot of Brits were happy to have the "foreigners" at the EU tell them how to spend their money, Lol

 

 

That's very PC,  to think that the 'foreign' in the  Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office is "... a bit discriminatory...".

The "...the $millions I paid in taxes..."  certainly does allow you to question what the Canadian Government does with it.

In the last forty the UK the social structure has changed. Both parents usually need to be breadwinners. Single parents have to work to provide and people have to move to where there is work. Their parents are more independent in nature and in finances. It is totally unfair for older parents to expect a level of dependency for 30 years. Paying for things is the norm.

In those days carers were usually women who were expected to do far more than the man-who 'fixed' things every now and again. 

 

Governments should not interfere in how benefits are spent, neither is it the business of anybody else. Paying taxes on piddling amounts of work,  discourages enterprise, self help, self reliance and becoming an entrepreneur paying larger and larger amounts of tax.

 

As for the EU-you weren't here.

Edited July 5, 2021 by Annie Bynnol

[carosio]

26 minutes ago, Annie Bynnol said:

In those days carers were usually women who were expected to do far more than the man-who 'fixed' things every now and again. 

 

 

Not forgetting the thousands of men who had to be up at 5am to start long shifts doing heavy and dangerous work in the Sheffield steel industry.

Edited July 5, 2021 by carosio

[trastrick]

47 minutes ago, Annie Bynnol said:

That's very PC,  to think that the 'foreign' in the  Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Office is "... a bit discriminatory...".

The "...the $millions I paid in taxes..."  certainly does allow you to question what the Canadian Government does with it.

In the last forty the UK the social structure has changed. Both parents usually need to be breadwinners. Single parents have to work to provide and people have to move to where there is work. Their parents are more independent in nature and in finances. It is totally unfair for older parents to expect a level of dependency for 30 years. Paying for things is the norm.

In those days carers were usually women who were expected to do far more than the man-who 'fixed' things every now and again. 

 

Governments should not interfere in how benefits are spent, neither is it the business of anybody else. Paying taxes on piddling amounts of work,  discourages enterprise, self help, self reliance and becoming an entrepreneur paying larger and larger amounts of tax.

 

As for the EU-you weren't here.

In those days, dearie, we men were expected to fight the foreign wars, and women were far more than carers. they manned the factory assembly lines, and produced war machines and ammo. They volunteered to work on the farms in the Land Army.

 

You sell women short.

 

As for your "foreign" references, I have a British passport. And a nice letter from Sir Charles Clarke, Minister of Education, thanking me for my dedication to education, and congratulating me on my "retirement".

 

 Facing 2 years of National Service, in some foreign hellhole, I joined the Army Cadets at 15,  and learned how to drill, and handle a Lee Enfield 303.  I figured it might help me stay alive a little longer in the next war, And yes, I paid taxes, on my piddling apprentice wages. It did not discourage me from becoming a rather successful entrepreneur.

 

I can only hope that with your complete ignorance of recent history, you never had an opportunity to pass your nonsense to students in a classroom..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 5, 2021 by trastrick

[Annie Bynnol]

2 hours ago, carosio said:

Not forgetting the thousands of men who had to be up at 5am to start long shifts doing heavy and dangerous work in the Sheffield steel industry.

I think you mean several tens of thousands of men in Sheffield, and the several tens of thousands of women who had children, jobs and parents to fill their time.

Edited July 5, 2021 by Annie Bynnol

[Annie Bynnol]

1 hour ago, trastrick said:

In those days, dearie, we men were expected to fight the foreign wars, and women were far more than carers. they manned the factory assembly lines, and produced war machines and ammo. They volunteered to work on the farms in the Land Army.

 

You sell women short.

 

As for your "foreign" references, I have a British passport. And a nice letter from Sir Charles Clarke, Minister of Education, thanking me for my dedication to education, and congratulating me on my "retirement".

 

 Facing 2 years of National Service, in some foreign hellhole, I joined the Army Cadets at 15,  and learned how to drill, and handle a Lee Enfield 303.  I figured it might help me stay alive a little longer in the next war, And yes, I paid taxes, on my piddling apprentice wages. It did not discourage me from becoming a rather successful entrepreneur.

 

I can only hope that with your complete ignorance of recent history, you never had an opportunity to pass your nonsense to students in a classroom..

 

 

I do not  see the relevance of missing out on doing National Service, being in the Cadets, being in Canada for forty years, and  have the time to prove your "...dedication to education..."in less than seven years. 

Family structure and work patterns have changed drastically in recent history and not all of it by choice.

People should not be  told how to spend the money they are entitled to and with as more and more over 66s with income other than the state benefit they can afford gardeners. Spending money on a gardener is far better for the economy is better for the economy than spending it on a packet of fags.