altus Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 2 hours ago, retep said: Wonder if these were biting their fingernails down to the elbows, I doubt it. Even the first and last paragraphs of the bit you quoted say how unreliable the figures are likely to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altus Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 28 minutes ago, Padders said: Compared to 1960 and 1965 that was minor flooding. In Matlock they have a marker showing how high the water got, the whole town was under about 10ft of water. It still undermines your claim that "In the last 56 yrs no floods." They removed a weir on the river in 1970 which has reduced the risk/extent of flooding since then. Don't make claims based on comparing apples and oranges, people will point it out and you'll either look foolish or disingenuous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 39 minutes ago, Padders said: Compared to 1960 and 1965 that was minor flooding. In Matlock they have a marker showing how high the water got, the whole town was under about 10ft of water. These things are called as weather or the local climate, although I do believe its quite posible that we have had more flooding and more flashfires. Global temperatures have increased, rising temperatures causes ice to melt and the sea levels are rising; warmer air causes it to hold more moisture, which will OBVIOUSLY cause more precipitation(rain). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padders Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 1 minute ago, altus said: It still undermines your claim that "In the last 56 yrs no floods." They removed a weir on the river in 1970 which has reduced the risk/extent of flooding since then. Don't make claims based on comparing apples and oranges, people will point it out and you'll either look foolish or disingenuous. Get what you mean, maybe I should have reworded it. "Not experienced anything like it since" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padders Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, El Cid said: These things are called as weather or the local climate, although I do believe its quite posible that we have had more flooding and more flashfires. Global temperatures have increased, rising temperatures causes ice to melt and the sea levels are rising; warmer air causes it to hold more moisture, which will OBVIOUSLY cause more precipitation(rain). Speaking on behalf of the less educated amongst us, why use the word Precipitation when just rain would have sufficed. Makes it a lot easier for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Just now, Padders said: Speaking on behalf of the less educated amongst us, why use the word Precipitation when just rain would have sufficed. Makes it a lot easier for us. Because more moisture in the air could also mean more hail/snow in the right conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altus Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 11 minutes ago, Padders said: Get what you mean, maybe I should have reworded it. "Not experienced anything like it since" That still implies that nothing has been changed that will effect the level of flooding. If the weir had still been in place who knows how often or severe flooding in Matlock would have been since 1970 (when it was removed) compared to without it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUFFEMS Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 4 hours ago, Padders said: Matlock in Derbyshire had a devastating flood in 1960. In 1965 they had an even worse flood. In the last 56 yrs no floods. Matlock had floods in November 2019 then January/February2020, the sand bags at the shop doorways never leave the town but, as Padders says, the level was nowhere near the height shown on the river marker. Still scary for business owners though. There's work going on now to eleviate the problem. Regards, Duffems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padders Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 Who remembers the summer of 1976? May to September, not a cloud in the sky, scorching hot, drought conditions, Imagine if were lucky enough to have another one of those, the media will have a field day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 1 hour ago, DUFFEMS said: Matlock had floods in November 2019 then January/February2020, the sand bags at the shop doorways never leave the town but, as Padders says, the level was nowhere near the height shown on the river marker. Still scary for business owners though. There's work going on now to eleviate the problem. So maybe that is why floods are not as bad, because we know more about flooding and build in protections. Although we still build new houses on low lying land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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