20,000 Afghan Refugees Coming To The Uk.

[cuttsie]

20 hours ago, HumbleNarrator said:

I know that some are in a hotel by Derek Dooley Way/Wicker. Where do you imagine they will ultimately end up being housed? It will be all the usual ghetto's, at arms length from the goodie-goodie's  in Hallam who wanted them here.

There has been a  council bungalow on Bevan Way empty for four years ,although the council say the rent is being paid so there is now't they can do , It was let to a single mother who has never moved in but collects mail now and then so how many properties are just used for convenience address and why do the so called council officers let them get away with it when so many people need Homes .

[PRESLEY]

Plenty of room in Buckingham Palace, St James's Palace, Windsor Castle and Balmoral ect.  

[Resident]

1 hour ago, cuttsie said:

There has been a  council bungalow on Bevan Way empty for four years ,although the council say the rent is being paid so there is now't they can do , It was let to a single mother who has never moved in but collects mail now and then so how many properties are just used for convenience address and why do the so called council officers let them get away with it when so many people need Homes .

Which is completely false as you're bound as a tenant to live in the property. Except in extenuating circumstances, agreed with the council, you must not leave the property empty for more than 42 days.

[cuttsie]

13 minutes ago, Resident said:

Which is completely false as you're bound as a tenant to live in the property. Except in extenuating circumstances, agreed with the council, you must not leave the property empty for more than 42 days.

well the officer was told by a few local residents and that was the answer she gave .

[trastrick]

3 hours ago, Carbuncle said:

"Safe from diverse development" - Uggh. Yes, yes, I know you think Muslims are bad people.

 

The thing that keeps Peak villages exclusive are high property prices butressed by tight planning restrictions and sod the great unwashed masses, refugees or otherwise, who would like better housing in a nicer environment but find they cannot afford it.

Lol

 

You should see someone about your delusions, and telepathic abilities to devine what others, "think".

 

Diverse development means mixed land use.  Agricultural, Industrial, Commercial, Recreational, and Residential - both high and low density.

 

Google it. Or ask your Mom.

 

And why pick on "Muslims" Hmmmmm?

Edited August 28, 2021 by trastrick

[Carbuncle]

2 hours ago, trastrick said:

Diverse development means mixed land use.  Agricultural, Industrial, Commercial, Recreational, and Residential - both high and low density.

 

Oh, ... I'm very sorry about that. How mortifying to have made the mistake of thinking you were objecting to community diversity when it was mixed land use you were objecting to.

 

Strange though, HumbleNarrator who you quoted was concerned with where Afghan refugees were going to be relocated to. Still it's nice to hear that you have abandoned your former concerns over Muslims (after your first paragraph) and having put that behind are now so deeply engaged in questions of town planning (beginning of your second paragraph). Good on you and please accept my apologies for the (newly) unfounded accusations contained in my last post.

Edited August 28, 2021 by Carbuncle

[trastrick]

2 hours ago, Carbuncle said:

Oh, ... I'm very sorry about that. How mortifying to have made the mistake of thinking you were objecting to community diversity when it was mixed land use you were objecting to.

 

Strange though, HumbleNarrator who you quoted was concerned with where Afghan refugees were going to be relocated to. Still it's nice to hear that you have abandoned your former concerns over Muslims (after your first paragraph) and having put that behind are now so deeply engaged in questions of town planning (beginning of your second paragraph). Good on you and please accept my apologies for the (newly) unfounded accusations contained in my last post.

Apologies accepted.

 

My post was clear. I was talking about the legitimate and challenging need for housing for refugees and immigrants, and a response to the poster who noted the wealthier residents of Sheffield. These are folks who have large residential properties in neighborhoods that exclude, and fight against high density residential housing for the homeless, poor, immigrants and refugees, and the social services necessary to assist them.

 

The largest immigrant groups to the U.K. in the last few years have been from Eastern Europe. Poland. in particular. The few hundred Afghani refugees, expected from this latest Middle East situation that would make it's way to Sheffield from the total, would be almost unnoticeable. All 20,000 are not clamoring to live in Sheffield. (You just aren't that special, Lol)

 

I was contemplating the future, where, such large disparities between the rich areas of Sheffield, and the public housing needed for the immigrants, refugees and homegrown poor and homeless families, would be allowed to exist, in your progressive, egalitarian society.

 

There may come a day when the Peak District is used for more humanitarian purposes, than a Sunday drive, or a nice place show off your JJ Bean hiking gear and hat, or walk your designer dogs.

 

Matter of fact, the example I gave that distressed me most was the total obliteration of the Gleadless Valley Paradise, I knew as a child. And that was built for the needs of white Brits, not immigrant families.

 

How long before those nice Whirlow and Ecclesall Woods are seen as just bourgeois luxurious views for the few privileged enclaves, in a progressive society?

 

Will there really be a sign, "Fox House Flats, sister development of Parkhill Flats" with wide sweeping majestic views of dynamic Sheffield in the distance?

 

I have seen the past, and I am just contemplating the future.

Edited August 28, 2021 by trastrick

[cuttsie]

10 hours ago, trastrick said:

Apologies accepted.

 

My post was clear. I was talking about the legitimate and challenging need for housing for refugees and immigrants, and a response to the poster who noted the wealthier residents of Sheffield. These are folks who have large residential properties in neighborhoods that exclude, and fight against high density residential housing for the homeless, poor, immigrants and refugees, and the social services necessary to assist them.

 

The largest immigrant groups to the U.K. in the last few years have been from Eastern Europe. Poland. in particular. The few hundred Afghani refugees, expected from this latest Middle East situation that would make it's way to Sheffield from the total, would be almost unnoticeable. All 20,000 are not clamoring to live in Sheffield. (You just aren't that special, Lol)

 

I was contemplating the future, where, such large disparities between the rich areas of Sheffield, and the public housing needed for the immigrants, refugees and homegrown poor and homeless families, would be allowed to exist, in your progressive, egalitarian society.

 

There may come a day when the Peak District is used for more humanitarian purposes, than a Sunday drive, or a nice place show off your JJ Bean hiking gear and hat, or walk your designer dogs.

 

Matter of fact, the example I gave that distressed me most was the total obliteration of the Gleadless Valley Paradise, I knew as a child. And that was built for the needs of white Brits, not immigrant families.

 

How long before those nice Whirlow and Ecclesall Woods are seen as just bourgeois luxurious views for the few privileged enclaves, in a progressive society?

 

Will there really be a sign, "Fox House Flats, sister development of Parkhill Flats" with wide sweeping majestic views of dynamic Sheffield in the distance?

 

I have seen the past, and I am just contemplating the future.

Gleadless Valley is a tragedy, The council are more interest in painting multi colour crossing areas and daft obstacles on Pinstone Street than sorting out the toss pots they have settled on the Gleadless Valley , The points you and others make in spreading these problems around the City are valid , why should certain areas be prime targets to house people who have no intention of blending in with their long established neighbours , I have lived on the Valley and loved the place but had to flit when found our selves surrounded by utter ****es .  I would point out that the biggest culprits are not immigrants although some chuck rubbish around the estate but white English who have no intention of working and are into drugs ,burglary and car stealing , One family was notorious near us and the council officers just said that THEY had a lot of problems , so bugger you lot .

Edited August 29, 2021 by cuttsie

[Jim117]

I live at S12 but prior to that I lived on the Valley for 13 years. There are families there who have lived there since the estate was built and through the generations have stayed on the Valley. The fact is that every property handed to immigrants is a property less for the kids of the original residents. Residents whose ancestors taxes will have paid for the estate to be built. Not to say I’m completely against migration but I am against the thoughtless destruction of existing communities as a result of it. Also just to point out, some years ago I read a full page article in our own Star that was written by the then head of City of Sanctuary. She gushed on about how welcoming Sheffield folk are, etc. At the end of the article it noted that she lived in Edale. Just saying.

[cuttsie]

2 minutes ago, Jim117 said:

I live at S12 but prior to that I lived on the Valley for 13 years. There are families there who have lived there since the estate was built and through the generations have stayed on the Valley. The fact is that every property handed to immigrants is a property less for the kids of the original residents. Residents whose ancestors taxes will have paid for the estate to be built. Not to say I’m completely against migration but I am against the thoughtless destruction of existing communities as a result of it. Also just to point out, some years ago I read a full page article in our own Star that was written by the then head of City of Sanctuary. She gushed on about how welcoming Sheffield folk are, etc. At the end of the article it noted that she lived in Edale. Just saying.

Thats a familiar story , They all spout how we should live on the estates , while usually living elsewhere and now cuddling up with the Green Party who in fact are just the same in disguise . Most of the local M.Ps are incomers who are hand picked by party head quarters and shipped in to represent a City who they know nothing about , the day of the working class politician be it local or national has gone we now have clones from the middle classes who think Manual Labour is a Spanish waiter.