crookesey Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 10 hours ago, lobster said: Still getting a rise of 2.5% which is in line with wage inflation -so I don't think there are much grounds for complaint Strangely enough I didn’t expect anything more than the minimum either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 11 hours ago, lobster said: Still getting a rise of 2.5% which is in line with wage inflation -so I don't think there are much grounds for complaint Local Government voted on a 2.75% increase for the minium rate and 1.75% for the rest. So millions of public sector workers(including care home staff) will be falling behind the private sector again. Growth in average total pay (including bonuses) and regular pay (excluding bonuses) among employees was 5.6% for the three months February to April 2021. The UK inflation rate rose by 2.1% in the 12 months to July 2021, down from 2.4% in the 12 months to June. https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/employmentandemployeetypes/bulletins/averageweeklyearningsingreatbritain/june2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crookesey Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, El Cid said: Local Government voted on a 2.75% increase for the minium rate and 1.75% for the rest. So millions of public sector workers(including care home staff) will be falling behind the private sector again. Growth in average total pay (including bonuses) and regular pay (excluding bonuses) among employees was 5.6% for the three months February to April 2021. The UK inflation rate rose by 2.1% in the 12 months to July 2021, down from 2.4% in the 12 months to June. https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/employmentandemployeetypes/bulletins/averageweeklyearningsingreatbritain/june2021 You appear to have omitted that the private sector doesn’t offer enhanced gold plated pensions with early retirement options that are totally unaffordable. Edited September 8, 2021 by crookesey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 2 hours ago, crookesey said: You appear to have omitted that the private sector doesn’t offer enhanced gold plated pensions with early retirement options that are totally unaffordable. That is a rightwing belief; the jobs are open to all, just like any employer - they want to attract the best workers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crookesey Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, El Cid said: That is a rightwing belief; the jobs are open to all, just like any employer - they want to attract the best workers. Yes, so they offer an unbeatable pension, that’s a zero wing reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 On 07/09/2021 at 19:04, tinfoilhat said: Do pensioners pay National insurance? Perhaps you should rephrase that? Did pensioners pay National Insurance? Yes…I paid for 50 years…and expect a decent payback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 On 08/09/2021 at 15:04, crookesey said: You appear to have omitted that the private sector doesn’t offer enhanced gold plated pensions with early retirement options that are totally unaffordable. Yet the private sector outbids them when it somes to the present HGV crisis. If you think they offer much better pay and conditions than other employers, why not join them, I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spilldig Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 On 08/09/2021 at 01:26, lobster said: Still getting a rise of 2.5% which is in line with wage inflation -so I don't think there are much grounds for complaint You don't think so lobster, Well remember it only on 179 pounds per week which is so far beneath the goverments minimum as to be almost unbelievable. The minimum wage is 8.91 per hour, now all my worrking life I averaged 40 hours so each and every individual pensioner should recieve a minimum of 356 pounds per week each with a couple obviously being on 712 per week because that's the minimum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crookesey Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 1 hour ago, El Cid said: Yet the private sector outbids them when it somes to the present HGV crisis. If you think they offer much better pay and conditions than other employers, why not join them, I did. Perhaps at age 74 I might struggle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 On 08/09/2021 at 01:26, lobster said: Still getting a rise of 2.5% which is in line with wage inflation -so I don't think there are much grounds for complaint Where do you get the 2.5% wage inflation figure from? "Growth in average total pay (including bonuses) was 8.8% and regular pay (excluding bonuses) was 7.4% in April to June 2021." https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/employmentandemployeetypes/bulletins/uklabourmarket/august2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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