crookesey Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 49 minutes ago, BigAl1 said: They don’t have to offer incentives when they can simply make new contracts conditional on having one. When things revert to normal and variable rates are higher than fixed contracts then you will either pay more or change and get a smart meter I think many are worried about how the companies will be able to use these meters like being able to vary the price by peak and off peak rather than not trusting the companies. As the best deals appear to be those of the ‘fixed’ variety, how could they vary these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl1 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 hour ago, crookesey said: As the best deals appear to be those of the ‘fixed’ variety, how could they vary these? Wait and see but you will see new tariffs and you may get something like fixed peak rate, fixed shoulder rate and fixed off peak rate package that will allow them to vary the price charged by time of day within the contract. Each new tariff will be tiered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crookesey Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, BigAl1 said: Wait and see but you will see new tariffs and you may get something like fixed peak rate, fixed shoulder rate and fixed off peak rate package that will allow them to vary the price charged by time of day within the contract. Each new tariff will be tiered. I don’t share your paranoid view on the energy companies, I save that for the inhabitants of The Palace of Westminster. You’re forecasting what will be the case, whilst I’m optimistic that common sense will prevail, albeit with less but more professional suppliers. I’m sticking with Shell as they are energy professionals, I don’t go for long term commercial deals, it’s a fact that they cash in on consumer fear, however if the NHS are offering longevity deals, they knows where to find me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 hour ago, BigAl1 said: Wait and see but you will see new tariffs and you may get something like fixed peak rate, fixed shoulder rate and fixed off peak rate package that will allow them to vary the price charged by time of day within the contract. Each new tariff will be tiered. Each person will choose a contract to suit themselves, the tariff where night time energy is cheaper(for those with storage heaters) is already available. Some businesses get cheaper energy off-peak and pay more at peak, no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl1 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 19 minutes ago, El Cid said: Each person will choose a contract to suit themselves, the tariff where night time energy is cheaper(for those with storage heaters) is already available. Some businesses get cheaper energy off-peak and pay more at peak, no problem. My view is we will see far more of this. If the government succeeds in get us to have electric cars , gets rid of coal and gas power then they either they will need to build far more electricity generating capacity or they will have to ration it out by shifting usage to off peak. smart meters facilitate this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollingJ Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 18 minutes ago, BigAl1 said: My view is we will see far more of this. If the government succeeds in get us to have electric cars , gets rid of coal and gas power then they either they will need to build far more electricity generating capacity or they will have to ration it out by shifting usage to off peak. smart meters facilitate this. If they work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl1 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 4 hours ago, RollingJ said: If they work. It is the in home displays that don’t. I have not heard of systemic problems with the main units just odd examples such as the one mentioned earlier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollingJ Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 8 hours ago, BigAl1 said: It is the in home displays that don’t. I have not heard of systemic problems with the main units just odd examples such as the one mentioned earlier In mine (and my three neighbours) they just don't - no reception at all in the deep cellars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crookesey Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 13 hours ago, RollingJ said: If they work. The only problem that I’ve had is with the daily usage graph, Shell Energy now tell me that this is a common occurrence when the signal is low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollingJ Posted September 23, 2021 Share Posted September 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, crookesey said: The only problem that I’ve had is with the daily usage graph, Shell Energy now tell me that this is a common occurrence when the signal is low. See my post above yours - sometimes they just don't work at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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