Mister M Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 32 minutes ago, West 77 said: I've been out and about the last two days and not seen any queues at the two petrol stations I regularly use. I've not bought any petrol as I have plenty in my tank and will buy as normal sometime next week. I'm more than willing to give details of the location of my two regularly petrol stations via private message to any forum member providing they are not anti Brexit, anti Tory, anti Boris, anti British or anti democracy. Obviously that rules out any of the Mister Men, their associates and sock puppets. You've got some sauce accusing other members of being 'sock puppets. You've had enough user names on here to make a football team! I'm just hopeful that one day they'll reappear on here so you can all argue amongst yourselves Speaking of sock puppets I see that Michael Green, alias Grant Schapps, the supposed Transport Secretary was complimenting Brexit, and how it could be the solution to the shortage of HGV drivers 🤪 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECCOnoob Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 (edited) I must have either been lucky or some of the news stories on the internet are all being hyped up. Went to Sainsbury's at peaks yesterday afternoon, no queues, no chaos, a couple of diesel pumps closed off but unleaded seemed plentiful. Similar story when I drove past my local independent garage which again did not have more than about 3 or 4 cars and no tailbacks down the road. Prepared to some of the horrendous scenes I've seen in the Sheffield Star about "motorist madness" I must be on a different planet. Maybe Morrisons and Tesco shoppers are a little bit more hysterical or selfish with their panic buying. Edited September 26, 2021 by ECCOnoob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sibon Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Mister M said: You've got some sauce accusing other members of being 'sock puppets. You've had enough user names on here to make a football team! I'm just hopeful that one day they'll reappear on here so you can all argue amongst yourselves Speaking of sock puppets I see that Michael Green, alias Grant Schapps, the supposed Transport Secretary was complimenting Brexit, and how it could be the solution to the shortage of HGV drivers 🤪 Schnapps is currently fully employed under his given name, blaming the public for the crisis. It’s hardly our fault that nobody believes a word this government says and panics at the first whiff of a problem. He’d be better employed doing his job properly and sorting out the problems, rather than indulging in victim blaming. I’ve also been out and about today. There were no queues at the two petrol stations that I passed, because they were sold out of unleaded. Edited September 26, 2021 by sibon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 43 minutes ago, West 77 said: I've been out and about the last two days and not seen any queues at the two petrol stations I regularly use. I've not bought any petrol as I have plenty in my tank and will buy as normal sometime next week. I'm more than willing to give details of the location of my two regularly petrol stations via private message to any forum member providing they are not anti Brexit, anti Tory, anti Boris, anti British or anti democracy. Obviously that rules out any of the Mister Men, their associates and sock puppets. I drove past two today on the way back from my sisters, both closed, I was surprised, but I have seen others in the area closed. I have half a tank left, so no problem here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sibon Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 (edited) Last time this happened, it was caused by a Tory minister. This time it is caused by the entire government. I guess that is progress Edited September 26, 2021 by sibon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECCOnoob Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 1 minute ago, sibon said: Schnapps is currently fully employed under his given name, blaming the public for the crisis. It’s hardly our fault that nobody believes a word this government says and panics at the first whiff of a problem. He’d be better employed doing his job properly and sorting out the problems. I’ve also been out and about todays. There were no queues at the two petrol stations that I passed, because they were sold out of unleaded. Actually, I disagree. It is partly our fault. I have said before that people as a collective are dumb, reactionary, emotive. They are fuelled by the media whose agenda is less on facts and more on sensationalism to sell their papers. It is widely documented that there are driver shortages all over Europe at the moment. So those simplisticly chirping about brexit can do one. A private company makes it very clear that they had a small number of outlets which had a limited supply and yet 24-hours later half of the bloody country is out there are hysterical filling up their vehicles, which of course the media then reports all over the papers with dramatic headlines which fuelled even more to go out and do the same. This is all in the face of not only the government but several distributors and few operators all clearly stating there is no shortage. If people just calmed down and just fuelled when they needed as they would do normally - supply will flow around. So therefore people are dumb and people are to blame. Trying to pay this on the government as a trust issue is nonsense. This "crisis" is virtually being created by ourselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sibon Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 1 minute ago, ECCOnoob said: Actually, I disagree. It is partly our fault. I have said before that people as a collective are dumb, reactionary, emotive. They are fuelled by the media whose agenda is less on facts and more on sensationalism to sell their papers. It is widely documented that there are driver shortages all over Europe at the moment. So those simplisticly chirping about brexit can do one. A private company makes it very clear that they had a small number of outlets which had a limited supply and yet 24-hours later half of the bloody country is out there are hysterical filling up their vehicles, which of course the media then reports all over the papers with dramatic headlines which fuelled even more to go out and do the same. This is all in the face of not only the government but several distributors and few operators all clearly stating there is no shortage. If people just calmed down and just fuelled when they needed as they would do normally - supply will flow around. So therefore people are dumb and people are to blame. Trying to pay this on the government as a trust issue is nonsense. This "crisis" is virtually being created by ourselves. You missed my point. The panic is causing the crisis, but you can’t blame the public for not believing the Government when they say that everything is alright. They are such an untrustworthy bunch. That is entirely down to the way they conduct themselves. So this is a failure of government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbuncle Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 23 minutes ago, ECCOnoob said: It is widely documented that there are driver shortages all over Europe at the moment. It is widely documented but not necessarily true. I am sceptical of the whole long term 'shortage' of HGV drivers story because there does not seem to be any sign of a long term shortage of HGV driving, ie goods were turning up pre-Brexit/Pandemic. I am sceptical of the Europe-wide 'shortage' of lorry drivers because, at least as far as I checked, I could not find any news stories from the EU of food missing from shelves or petrol stations running short. Perhaps you could point me at stories of EU (delivery) shortages or else explain why out of the EU27 + UK it is only the UK where deliveries are a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECCOnoob Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 22 minutes ago, sibon said: You missed my point. The panic is causing the crisis, but you can’t blame the public for not believing the Government when they say that everything is alright. They are such an untrustworthy bunch. That is entirely down to the way they conduct themselves. So this is a failure of government. So why dont people believe it when the fuel companies themselves are saying there is no shortage issues?? Let me guess, the people have a complete distrust in the corporate machine as much as they do the government. We really are doomed aren't we. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockers rule Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 29 minutes ago, ECCOnoob said: Actually, I disagree. It is partly our fault. I have said before that people as a collective are dumb, reactionary, emotive. They are fuelled by the media whose agenda is less on facts and more on sensationalism to sell their papers. It is widely documented that there are driver shortages all over Europe at the moment. So those simplisticly chirping about brexit can do one. A private company makes it very clear that they had a small number of outlets which had a limited supply and yet 24-hours later half of the bloody country is out there are hysterical filling up their vehicles, which of course the media then reports all over the papers with dramatic headlines which fuelled even more to go out and do the same. This is all in the face of not only the government but several distributors and few operators all clearly stating there is no shortage. If people just calmed down and just fuelled when they needed as they would do normally - supply will flow around. So therefore people are dumb and people are to blame. Trying to pay this on the government as a trust issue is nonsense. This "crisis" is virtually being created by ourselves. Again, I find myself agreeing with you (can you please make sure this doesn't happen too often) This "Crisis" is entirely created by "ourselves". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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