Mister M Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Caswall said: I believe he has an education though, and uses it, so your comment is relevant to Rayner's position as an ignoramus as deputy leader . . . how? How has he used his education? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caswall Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 (edited) 48 minutes ago, spilldig said: Good grief I am not going to explain again how a democracy works. I think the way it works is that the party with the largest proportion of the votes, and therefore the most elected members of Parliament, wins. In this case, that largest proportion of the vote was 14 million. Edited September 28, 2021 by Caswall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caswall Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 (edited) 56 minutes ago, sibon said: I would have thought that you’d be able to do basic maths. At the last general election, the largest proportion of the vote was for parties other than the Conservatives. If we were debating how a democracy works, you could do that. At the moment, we are discussing Key Stage 3 maths. If you wish to imply that education is required, permit me to assist you with a definition: 'Proportion - a part, share, or number considered in comparative relation to a whole'. I will explain that for you, in the context of the election results being discussed: Each party won a proportion of the vote. The party with the largest of those proportions was the Conservative Party, and the fact that adding up all the other separate proportions produces a larger figure is, at best, irrelevant. Are we learning? Edited September 28, 2021 by Caswall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caswall Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 47 minutes ago, Mister M said: How has he used his education? Reading and writing I expect, and simply not having the excruciating dialect and limited vocabulary of the uneducated Rayner would be another good example. Rayner, for all her passion and misguided determination, exemplifies the need for an educated class (academically and culturally) to run the nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sibon Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 21 minutes ago, Caswall said: If you wish to imply that education is required, permit me to assist you with a definition: 'Proportion - a part, share, or number considered in comparative relation to a whole'. I will explain that for you, in the context of the election results being discussed: Each party won a proportion of the vote. The party with the largest of those proportions was the Conservative Party, and the fact that adding up all the other separate proportions produces a larger figure is, at best, irrelevant. Are we learning? But you said that “the largest proportion of U.K. voters are Conservatives”. That isn’t true. The largest proportion of U.K. voters are not Conservatives. Can you see your conceptual error yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Joker Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Angela Rayner was quite correct to call the Tories scum. However, where she made a mistake was in attempting to explain her comments. She should not have apologised, and she should not have explained. In fact, she should have doubled down on her original comment and called them Evil Tory scum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caswall Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 19 minutes ago, sibon said: But you said that “the largest proportion of U.K. voters are Conservatives”. That isn’t true. The largest proportion of U.K. voters are not Conservatives. Can you see your conceptual error yet? The majority may not be Conservatives, but of the various proportions that voted for a party - the Conservative proportion was the largest. You are confusing 'largest proportion' with 'majority', and perpetuating a pointless argument here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 55 minutes ago, Caswall said: In this case, that largest proportion of the vote was 14 million. With an adult population of 50 million, its rather poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Hardie Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 Just now, Caswall said: The majority may not be Conservatives, but of the various proportions that voted for a party - the Conservative proportion was the largest. You are confusing 'largest proportion' with 'majority', and perpetuating a pointless argument here. Here’s my two penn’orth. altus: “They might have got more votes than anyone else but most people who voted in the last election voted for a party other than the Conservatives.” (Which party was that?) Verdict: Not true Sibon: “At the last general election, the largest proportion of the vote was for parties other than the Conservatives.” Verdict: True Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sibon Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, Caswall said: The majority may not be Conservatives, but of the various proportions that voted for a party - the Conservative proportion was the largest. You are confusing 'largest proportion' with 'majority', and perpetuating a pointless argument here. I’m not. You might be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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