Pandora Papers ! .

[Staunton]

Life expectancy falling in parts of England before pandemic.

 

Many areas in the north of England have seen life expectancy fall within the last decade, a new study suggests.

 

Differences across England have now become stark, say researchers - such as a 27-year gap in life expectancy for a man living in Kensington and Chelsea, compared to Blackpool.

 

Although Covid caused life expectancy to drop, this research suggests it was already in decline in many areas.

Researchers described the trend as "alarming".

 

"There has always been an impression in the UK that everyone's health is improving, even if not at the same pace," said Prof Majid Ezzati from Imperial College London which carried out the study.

 

"These data show that longevity has been getting worse for years in large parts of England."

 

The study, which has been published in The Lancet journal, analysed all deaths in England between 2002 and 2019. It then worked out the life expectancy for different communities, based on the death records in those places.

It found that while life expectancy rose in most places during the first decade of the millennium, from 2010 it began to decline in some places.

 

Areas in London and the home counties still continued on the path of living longer - but life expectancy fell in some urban parts of Leeds, Newcastle, Manchester, Liverpool and Blackpool where life expectancy was below 70 for men and 75 for women.

 

By 2019, the researchers say there was a 20-year gap in life expectancy between a woman living in Camden (95.4 years) versus a woman living in one area of Leeds (74.7 years).

 

And for men, there was a 27-year gap in life expectancy between areas in Kensington and Chelsea (95.3 years) and parts of Blackpool (68.3 years)

Average life expectancy in the UK is 79 years for men and just below 83 years for women, according to estimates from the Office for National Statistics.

 

"Declines in life expectancy used to be rare in wealthy countries like the UK, and happened when there were major adversities like wars and pandemics," said Prof Ezzati.

 

"For such declines to be seen in 'normal times' before the pandemic is alarming," he said - and he called for action to be taken.

 

The researchers say the differences are down to poverty, insecure employment as well as reductions in welfare support and healthcare.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58893328

[Anna B]

46 minutes ago, Caswall said:

Oh, now that's a powerful argument unlikely to be challenged (successfully anyway).

It's also thanks to the welfare state that they had more than their parents. For the first time ordinary working people got a bite of the cherry and made the most of it with better health, decent housing, and free higher education etc. 

It's notable that now the Conservatives are 'rolling backthe welfare state' the children of these baby boomers are not expected to exceed their parents good fortune.

3 minutes ago, Staunton said:

Life expectancy falling in parts of England before pandemic.

 

Many areas in the north of England have seen life expectancy fall within the last decade, a new study suggests.

 

Differences across England have now become stark, say researchers - such as a 27-year gap in life expectancy for a man living in Kensington and Chelsea, compared to Blackpool.

 

Although Covid caused life expectancy to drop, this research suggests it was already in decline in many areas.

Researchers described the trend as "alarming".

 

"There has always been an impression in the UK that everyone's health is improving, even if not at the same pace," said Prof Majid Ezzati from Imperial College London which carried out the study.

 

"These data show that longevity has been getting worse for years in large parts of England."

 

The study, which has been published in The Lancet journal, analysed all deaths in England between 2002 and 2019. It then worked out the life expectancy for different communities, based on the death records in those places.

It found that while life expectancy rose in most places during the first decade of the millennium, from 2010 it began to decline in some places.

 

Areas in London and the home counties still continued on the path of living longer - but life expectancy fell in some urban parts of Leeds, Newcastle, Manchester, Liverpool and Blackpool where life expectancy was below 70 for men and 75 for women.

 

By 2019, the researchers say there was a 20-year gap in life expectancy between a woman living in Camden (95.4 years) versus a woman living in one area of Leeds (74.7 years).

 

And for men, there was a 27-year gap in life expectancy between areas in Kensington and Chelsea (95.3 years) and parts of Blackpool (68.3 years)

Average life expectancy in the UK is 79 years for men and just below 83 years for women, according to estimates from the Office for National Statistics.

 

"Declines in life expectancy used to be rare in wealthy countries like the UK, and happened when there were major adversities like wars and pandemics," said Prof Ezzati.

 

"For such declines to be seen in 'normal times' before the pandemic is alarming," he said - and he called for action to be taken.

 

The researchers say the differences are down to poverty, insecure employment as well as reductions in welfare support and healthcare.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58893328

Exactly this. 

[Guest sibon]

1 hour ago, Caswall said:

So the growing population on an island of limited floorspace, and huge influx of immigration encourage by New Labour, are the fault of this Conservative government?  Because unless they are, nor is it the government responsible for the delta between population and available housing.

 

(Yes I know - Abbott had the solution - to build twelfty houses for £80 each).

Is this one of those puzzles where you have to rearrange the words to make a paragraph?

 

Incidentally, the Tories have been in power for twelfty two hundred years or so. Time they sorted out decent, affordable housing.

[Anna B]

45 minutes ago, sibon said:

Is this one of those puzzles where you have to rearrange the words to make a paragraph?

 

Incidentally, the Tories have been in power for twelfty two hundred years or so. Time they sorted out decent, affordable housing.

They have. The Tories can all afford very decent housing thankyou, what's the problem?

[Staunton]

Of course, what was significant about 2010 within the Imperial College research findings was that this was the year that the Conservative-led Coalition arrived on the scene. And using the financial scandal as cover, they began a direct assault upon the public sector. Cuts to welfare and healthcare were immediately made. VAT, the tax that hits ordinary people hardest, was increased while Corporation Tax, the tax that big business was supposed to pay, was reduced. And tax abuse was allowed to flourish unchecked, as the Panama Papers, the Paradise Papers, and now the Pandora Papers reveal with force.

[Anna B]

10 hours ago, Staunton said:

Of course, what was significant about 2010 within the Imperial College research findings was that this was the year that the Conservative-led Coalition arrived on the scene. And using the financial scandal as cover, they began a direct assault upon the public sector. Cuts to welfare and healthcare were immediately made. VAT, the tax that hits ordinary people hardest, was increased while Corporation Tax, the tax that big business was supposed to pay, was reduced. And tax abuse was allowed to flourish unchecked, as the Panama Papers, the Paradise Papers, and now the Pandora Papers reveal with force.

Spot on.

[Tony]

Asking once again, is it legal? Yes / No?

 

 

[Carbuncle]

5 hours ago, Tony said:

Asking once again, is it legal? Yes / No?

 

Again? You're asking the wrong question. Here are a couple of analogies to chew on.

 

(1) Back in 1990, it was not illegal for a man to rape his wife under English law. When the law is wrong it needs to be changed.

 

(2) It is not illegal to stand in the middle of your own kitchen holding a knife with you and the knife covered in somebody else's blood. Sometimes the evidence does not specify a particular crime but it should make you look further into matters as for example when the ruler of a country has more money than they might reasonably have been expected to be able to earn by legitimate means.

[Tony]

Of course it is the right question.

 

You are making a partial moral judgement and the reason why we have actual laws is that people make partial moral judgements.

[Carbuncle]

3 hours ago, Tony said:

Of course it is the right question.

 

You are making a partial moral judgement and the reason why we have actual laws is that people make partial moral judgements.

Curious, you had a view on Angela Rayner calling certain senior tories scum even though it was perfectly legal. You also thought that fracking would be a good idea even though it is illegal. You do seem capable of (partial) moral judgement despite what your statements on this thread might imply.