Compulsory Vaccination?

[onewheeldave]

17 minutes ago, Carbuncle said:

No, not in the sense of giving a precise definition. In rough terms, I chose to use this as a polite way of referring to the people who are sceptical of the (consensus) science on covid. I don't regard the term sceptic as an insult.

I'd suggest that 'covid mainstream narrative sceptic' would accurately capture the group in question and also be grammatically and logically correct, in a way that 'covid sceptic' doesn't, and isn't.

14 minutes ago, Carbuncle said:

I have other terms like 'gullible conspirasheeple' and conspiraloons available for other occasions.

I'm sure you do. Infantile name-calling seems very much in vogue these days.

[trastrick]

Just now, Carbuncle said:

Thank you ... do you have the full link?

https://www.google.com/search?q=Opioid+Manufacturer+Purdue+Pharma+Pleads+Guilty+to+Fraud&rlz=1C1CHBF_enCA853CA853&oq=Opioid+Manufacturer+Purdue+Pharma+Pleads+Guilty+to+Fraud&aqs=chrome..69i57.2495j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

[Longcol]

20 minutes ago, onewheeldave said:

 

I'm sure you do. Infantile name-calling seems very much in vogue these days.

So do accusations of "face nappies", "face rags", "hiding behind sofas" etc used by the  'covid mainstream narrative sceptics' on here. Never heard you criticise them.

 

Oh - forgot "plandemic";

 

https://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/search/?&q=plandemic&type=forums_topic&author=top4718&nodes=6&search_and_or=or&start_after=six_months

 

https://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/search/?&q=plandemic&type=forums_topic&author=The_DADDY&nodes=6&search_and_or=or&start_after=six_months

Edited December 7, 2021 by Longcol

[Carbuncle]

7 minutes ago, onewheeldave said:

I'd suggest that 'covid mainstream narrative sceptic' would accurately capture the group in question and also be grammatically and logically correct, in a way that 'covid sceptic' doesn't, and isn't.

Nonsense. Language does not work that way.

 

7 minutes ago, onewheeldave said:

I'm sure you do. Infantile name-calling seems very much in vogue these days.

You have used the terms gullible, sheep and sheeple yourself. I have noticed you bleat about name-calling but are not above behaving similarly yourself.

[top4718]

12 minutes ago, Longcol said:

Take it you don't bother with a handkerchief or a tissue if you've got a cold then?

Only for sneezing or blowing my nose, no other reason.

 

I masks are so effective why did case numbers in England fall and cases in Scotland and Wales rise when England had dropped the mask mandate?

[Carbuncle]

12 minutes ago, trastrick said:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Opioid+Manufacturer+Purdue+Pharma+Pleads+Guilty+to+Fraud&rlz=1C1CHBF_enCA853CA853&oq=Opioid+Manufacturer+Purdue+Pharma+Pleads+Guilty+to+Fraud&aqs=chrome..69i57.2495j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Thanks. The fraud detailed is in regard to marketing rather than clinical trials.

 

You may not see the relevance of the distinction but there are whistleblower allegations against a Pfizer contract researcher relating to work on Pfizer covid vaccine and the FDA and Pfizer have thus far been less than forthcoming.

[Longcol]

7 minutes ago, top4718 said:

Only for sneezing or blowing my nose, no other reason.

Not bothering to try to prevent spreading germs to other people?

 

 

[trastrick]

Just now, Carbuncle said:

Thanks. The fraud detailed is in regard to marketing rather than clinical trials.

 

You may not see the relevance of the distinction but there are whistleblower allegations against a Pfizer contract researcher relating to work on Pfizer covid vaccine and the FDA and Pfizer have thus far been less than forthcoming.

I was  aware of that too. 

 

Pfizer

Merk

Lilly

Johnson & Johnson

Glaxo

AstraZenica

Bristol Myers Squib

 

Have all paid multimillion dollar fines for varied crimes. The crimes include fraud, kickbacks, false claims, poor manufacturing practices and Medicare Fraud.

 

As I  was saying, they are not gods, just human.

 

Edited December 8, 2021 by trastrick

[The_DADDY]

5 minutes ago, trastrick said:

I was  aware of that too. 

 

Pfizer

Merk

Lilly

Johnson & Johnson

Glaxo

AstraZenica

Bristol Myers Squib

 

Have all paid multimillion dollar fines for varied crimes. The crimes include fraud, kickbacks, false claims, poor manufacturing practices and Medicare Fraud.

 

As I  was saying, they are not gods, just humans.

 

Didn't pfizer have to pay out a couple of billion in fines not so many years ago? 

[trastrick]

Just now, The_DADDY said:

Didn't pfizer have to pay out a couple of billion in fines not so many years ago? 

Yep, 

 

According to WIKI

 

Year	Company	Settlement	Laws allegedly violated; (if ap...
2012	GlaxoSmithKline	$3 billion ($1B criminal, $2B civil)	False Claims Act, FDCA
2009	Pfizer	$2.3 billion	False Claims Act, FDCA
2013	Johnson & Johnson	$2.2 billion	False Claims Act, FDCA

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