Baron99 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) New, small urban electric car from Citroen to be sold in the UK from this summer. Top speed, 28mph. Only £5,000. https://www.itv.com/news/2021-09-22/citroen-to-sell-tiny-28mph-electric-car-in-uk-for-around-5000 It'll suit some but surely, someone could manufacture something similar in this country? A new car plant producing small electric city runarounds would be perfect to complement the new electric car battery plant to be built in Northumberland. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60066432 Edited January 22, 2022 by Baron99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Joker Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 18 hours ago, Baron99 said: New, small urban electric car from Citroen to be sold in the UK from this summer. Top speed, 28mph. Or 10mph going up Sheffield’s hills. Please no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Surely a car needs to be an all rounder. There will always be times when you need to go further afield. Do you have to have a separate car for that\/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Joker Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Anna B said: Surely a car needs to be an all rounder. There will always be times when you need to go further afield. Do you have to have a separate car for that\/ You need an SUV then. The benefit is that you’d only ever need to own a single vehicle . . . but the anti-car brigade hate SUVs most of all. Edited January 24, 2022 by The Joker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L00b Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) On 22/01/2022 at 13:35, Baron99 said: New, small urban electric car from Citroen to be sold in the UK from this summer. Top speed, 28mph. Only £5,000. https://www.itv.com/news/2021-09-22/citroen-to-sell-tiny-28mph-electric-car-in-uk-for-around-5000 It'll suit some but surely, someone could manufacture something similar in this country? A new car plant producing small electric city runarounds would be perfect to complement the new electric car battery plant to be built in Northumberland. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60066432 Does the size of the UK market justify the capital investment? Based on prevalent rules of origin, it is likely cheaper for overseas manufacturers to import Northumberland batteries from the UK (e.g.) to make EV cars that still qualify, once fully assembled, as majoritarily ‘local’, rather than sink £££s into UK plants catering to a very small aggregate market. These Citroën cars are likely targeting the urban ‘book-use-&-drop’ hire service providers (think Lime EV scooters, upscaled to 4 wheels), much more than private buyers. The very low capital cost and urban-only speed strongly suggests that. They may also prove popular with banned drivers, if they fall into the same “no license required” classification as those tiny lawnmower-powered ‘cars’ (Ligier brand) that we see everywhere in France and surrounding countries. Topically, yes, we’re now in the market for a new car. The 15 year-old C class diesel is now starting to go slightly wrong and cost €s. She’s been really good to us, but after 4 years of RHD here on the Continent, at 127kmiles and a thirsty auto, time to replace with a ‘fun’ city-sized LHD manual that the kid can start to learn with. A VW Up GTI still appeals, still not ready to EV just yet. Edited January 25, 2022 by L00b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron99 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, L00b said: Does the size of the UK market justify the capital investment? Based on prevalent rules of origin, it is likely cheaper for overseas manufacturers to import Northumberland batteries from the UK (e.g.) to make EV cars that still qualify, once fully assembled, as majoritarily ‘local’, rather than sink £££s into UK plants catering to a very small aggregate market. These Citroën cars are likely targeting the urban ‘book-use-&-drop’ hire service providers (think Lime EV scooters, upscaled to 4 wheels), much more than private buyers. The very low capital cost and urban-only speed strongly suggests that. They may also prove popular with banned drivers, if they fall into the same “no license required” classification as those tiny lawnmower-powered ‘cars’ (Ligier brand) that we see everywhere in France and surrounding countries. Topically, yes, we’re now in the market for a new car. The 15 year-old C class diesel is now starting to go slightly wrong and cost €s. She’s been really good to us, but after 4 years of RHD here on the Continent, at 127kmiles and a thirsty auto, time to replace with a ‘fun’ city-sized LHD manual that the kid can start to learn with. A VW Up GTI still appeals, still not ready to EV just yet. My bold. Can't see anyone being allowed on UK roads without a driving licence, no matter what the size of the car or how its powered? Edited January 25, 2022 by Baron99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L00b Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 28 minutes ago, Baron99 said: My bold. Can't see anyone being allowed on UK roads without a driving licence, no matter what the size of the car or how its powered? True enough Licence Groups permitted to drive Microcar > Group 'A' (old group category D) motor cycle category minimum age 17 > Group B1 (old group category C) motor tricycle / quadricycles > Group B car category manual or auto > Learner car drivers provisional with 'B' at 17 years or after (accompanied) > Learner motor cycle drivers provisional with 'A' at 17 years or after (may drive on 'L' plates accompanied) > A motor cycle 'A' provisional licence holder does not require Compulsory Basic Training (CBT) since the Microcar has four wheels > Motor cycle 'A' category licence holders may take their car 'B' test using Microcar. A 'B' automatic licence will be issued. > A provisional licence for Microcar (four wheels) does not require reviewing after two years > A 16 year old entitled to Disability Living Allowance at the higher rate (Mobility Allowance) may drive Microcar But I did say ‘if’ 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgksheff Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 4 hours ago, Baron99 said: My bold. Can't see anyone being allowed on UK roads without a driving licence, no matter what the size of the car or how its powered? Since when has "being allowed" stopped the proliferation of illegal drivers and illegal vehicles on our roads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) 🙄 On 24/01/2022 at 21:49, The Joker said: You need an SUV then. The benefit is that you’d only ever need to own a single vehicle . . . but the anti-car brigade hate SUVs most of all. Sure, we can all afford an SUV can't we? And I'm sure that will do the planet no end of good... 🙄 Edited January 26, 2022 by Anna B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crookesey Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 I’m a six foot, fifteen stone Rheumatoid Arthritis sufferer that needs to slide into the driving seat rather than climbing into it, cars designed for short arses are no good to me, I drive a Freelander for that reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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