Gov U Turn On Compulsory Vaccination For Nhs

[steve68]

 

7 minutes ago, The_DADDY said:

Or you could look at it this way 

10s of 1000s of medical professionals refuse to be jabbed, they may know something you don't? 

or that the vast majority some 100s of thousands professionals have been jabbed or do they not count ?

[The_DADDY]

7 minutes ago, Waldo said:

They’re going to be more clued up than the general public.

 

I remember the anaesthetist who announced he wasn’t getting jabbed when, I think it was the chancellor was visiting. He said he’d already had Covid and didn’t think the efficacy of the jab (considering he had anti-bodies anyway) would be worth it. Think he also said the vaccine only protects for a couple of months.

Yeah I remember that. It was rather awkward wasn't it lol. 

11 minutes ago, rollwithit said:

quote Chris Whitty "only 2% of people will experience symptoms, out of that 99.997% will make a full recovery'

2 years later: average age of death 81yo+ with 3 or more core morbidities

devil is in the detail: 'died within 28 days of a positive PCR test' 

No rational thinking man or woman would allow unknown chemicals to be injected into their body for a virus with such a recovery rate. 

'do your bit and stop being selfish' the bankers and shareholders need to make money!

 

For 2 years people haven't been looking at the facts, and instead blinded by all the emotive, hypnotic and fear generating propaganda. 

The rona narrative has fallen apart, so the politicians have stepped back a little. BBC News today was full of Measles as the new fear porn with a possible push on childhood vaccination programmes. There's money to be made in them hills. 

That's absolutely bang on. Great post 👏

8 minutes ago, steve68 said:

 

or that the vast majority some 100s of thousands professionals have been jabbed or do they not count ?

Of course they do but I'd guess a fair few of those weren't able to stand up to the "nudging" and coersion, many probably felt it was right for them and others but the fact so many have refused it tells me a lot. 

[hackey lad]

Make it stop ,  please 

[fools]

1 hour ago, Waldo said:

Still think it’s a bit selfish and crap (of the NHS workers not getting vaccinated). You’re not getting vaccinated for your own benefit, but for everyone else’s benefit.

Oh, a sneaky covid thread.

 

That's a very altruistic view of society.

 

Did anyone actually have a moments thought about other people when taking the jab? A fair few of them wanted to go on holiday, go to a club, or carry on their careers without getting the sack.

 

The idea that it's selfish not to is a lovely bit of coercive propaganda. The number of triple jabbed MP's currently isolating should at the very least trigger some questions about the narrative that we've been bludgeoned with for the last 12 months. The vaccinated can catch and spread the virus.

 

Edited February 1, 2022 by fools

[butlers]

And the anti vaxers are hugely disproportionately in ICU and hospitalised by case 

[Waldo]

12 minutes ago, fools said:

Oh, a sneaky covid thread.

 

That's a very altruistic view of society.

 

Did anyone actually have a moments thought about other people when taking the jab? A fair few of them wanted to go on holiday, go to a club, or carry on their careers without getting the sack.

 

The idea that it's selfish not to is a lovely bit of coercive propaganda. The number of triple jabbed MP's currently isolating should at the very least trigger some questions about the narrative that we've been bludgeoned with for the last 12 months. The vaccinated can catch and spread the virus.

 

A curious perspective.

[Anna B]

1 hour ago, Waldo said:

Saw that coming, health workers had the gov over a barrel, sacking 10% of NHS workers was something unthinkable.

 

Still think it’s a bit selfish and crap (of the NHS workers not getting vaccinated). You’re not getting vaccinated for your own benefit, but for everyone else’s benefit. These 10% are happy for everyone else (well, most people) to get vaccinated but not risk vaccination themselves?

 

Wonder if they would they be happy for everyone to just think of themselves and for no one to get vaccinated?

You mean those selfish workers who during the early days of the pandemic put themselves in harm's way looking after sick Covid people in ill equipped hospitals and homes, before there was a vaccine? And without even proper PPE  to protect themselves, so that a disproportionate number of health workers died of the disease?

 

Yeah let's clap for them, give them a piddling pay rise and then sack them.......

 

[Waldo]

7 minutes ago, Anna B said:

You mean those selfish workers who during the early days of the pandemic put themselves in harm's way looking after sick Covid people in ill equipped hospitals and homes, before there was a vaccine? And without even proper PPE  to protect themselves, so that a disproportionate number of health workers died of the disease?

 

Yeah let's clap for them, give them a piddling pay rise and then sack them.......

 

Good points, well made Anna.

 

Are you 100% okay with health workers not being vaccinated?

 

What if they all decided to opt out? What if we all decided to opt out, is that okay, or is it just okay for NHS workers to opt out?

[onewheeldave]

3 hours ago, Waldo said:

These 10% are happy for everyone else (well, most people) to get vaccinated but not risk vaccination themselves?

 

Wonder if they would they be happy for everyone to just think of themselves and for no one to get vaccinated?

No, they'rehappy for those who want to get vaccinated to get vaccinated; they're not happy for those who choose not to get vaccinated to be forced to get vaccinated- they are pro choice and anti coercion.

 

 

1 hour ago, Waldo said:

 

 

Are you 100% okay with health workers not being vaccinated?

I am.

1 hour ago, Waldo said:

 

What if they all decided to opt out?

 

 

 

 

They won't all decide to opt out- the majority want the vaccine.

[onewheeldave]

1 hour ago, Waldo said:

What if we all decided to opt out, is that okay, or is it just okay for NHS workers to opt out?

The majority won't opt out. It's too late anyway, the majority of the public have already had the vaccine.

As far as I'm concerned no one should be forced to have the covid vaccination. Omicron is far too harmless to justify such a degredation of civil liberty.