Coming Soon: Climate Lockdowns?

[Magilla]

4 hours ago, trastrick said:

If you can name any "scientist" that has stated for a fact:

 

"Scientists say Biden’s transition plan is required to avoid the most catastrophic consequences of climate change".

A claim not made by Biden, or any scientist... but a journalist:

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/24/joe-biden-climate-change-is-number-one-issue-facing-humanity.html

 

Scientists say a plan is needed, and this is the only one on offer...

 

...sadly, you failed to understand the context of the claim, and who made it!

 

 

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"The world is going to end in 12 years if we don't address climate change,"

What AOC actually said:

 

"Millennials and Gen Z and all these folks that come after us are looking up, and were like, 'The world is going to end in 12 years if we don't address climate change, and your biggest issue is how are we gonna pay for it?' "

 

 

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As per the above quotes by 2  Left wing U.S. Government officials, Biden and AOC.,

Biden never said it, AOC was paraphrasing someone else!

 

Hook, line and sinker!

 

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then I will tell you

...how gullible and easily taken in you've been!

 

Is that the fault of the left?

Edited February 5, 2022 by Magilla

[altus]

23 hours ago, trastrick said:

Because it's only the political left that sees climate change, aka global warming, as a dire, and very imminent threat to humankind.

The idea that only the political left who views climate change a problem is simply nonsense. Here's one notable example - BlackRock’s Larry Fink: climate policies are about profits, not being ‘woke’

 

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Larry Fink, the chief executive of BlackRock, the world’s biggest investment fund manager, said pushing climate policies was about profits, not being “woke”.

 

In his annual letter to CEOs , Fink said businesses, cities and countries that do not plan for a carbon-free future risked being left behind. He argued that the pursuit of long-term returns was the main driver behind climate policies, after being criticised for seeking to influence companies.

 

“Stakeholder capitalism is not about politics. It is not a social or ideological agenda. It is not ‘woke’,” he wrote. “We focus on sustainability not because we’re environmentalists, but because we are capitalists and fiduciaries to our clients.”

Or are you going to claim the world's biggest investment fund is a woke, lefty organisation?

[trastrick]

31 minutes ago, altus said:

The idea that only the political left who views climate change a problem is simply nonsense. Here's one notable example - BlackRock’s Larry Fink: climate policies are about profits, not being ‘woke’

 

Or are you going to claim the world's biggest investment fund is a woke, lefty organisation?

No major financial organization has a future going against the "conventional wisdom" of their potential clients.

 

Likewise BP, Exxon Mobile have signed on to AGW,.

 

It's just Madison Avenue PR at work.

 

No future in having the sheep protesting in front of their gas stations.

 

Likewise the woke celebs, billionair3s, songsters, jesters, mimes and crooners all sign on the deal. It's a cheap free pass.

 

(As they all get richer and richer)

 

No protests in front of their mega mansions, ocean front estates,  and private airports, please! 

 

As P.T. Barnum said..........!

 

But where is the science in all this climate hyperbole?

Edited February 5, 2022 by trastrick

[altus]

6 hours ago, trastrick said:

No major financial organization has a future going against the "conventional wisdom" of their potential clients.

 

Likewise BP, Exxon Mobile have signed on to AGW,.

 

It's just Madison Avenue PR at work.

 

No future in having the sheep protesting in front of their gas stations.

 

Likewise the woke celebs, billionair3s, songsters, jesters, mimes and crooners all sign on the deal. It's a cheap free pass.

 

(As they all get richer and richer)

 

No protests in front of their mega mansions, ocean front estates,  and private airports, please! 

 

As P.T. Barnum said..........!

 

But where is the science in all this climate hyperbole?

Yeah, right. Next you'll be claiming insurance companies are going on about climate change because they've gone all woke rather than doing so because they noticed they've started having to pay out for more flooding events, etc.

[trastrick]

18 hours ago, altus said:

Yeah, right. Next you'll be claiming insurance companies are going on about climate change because they've gone all woke rather than doing so because they noticed they've started having to pay out for more flooding events, etc.

Fact is:

 

"Deaths from natural disasters have seen a large decline over the past century – from, in some years, millions of deaths per year to an average of 60,000 over the past decade."

 

"This decline is even more impressive when we consider the rate of population growth over this period. When we correct for population – showing this data in terms of death rates (measured per 100,000 people) – we see an even greater decline over the past century. This chart can be viewed here.

 

It's also a fact that the "costs" of these disasters is rising with the population demanding increased developments in places like Hurricane Alley : Gulf States, Florida, Texas. Tornado Alley: Mid West, Historic floodplains: Louisiana. Earthquake and Wildfire Zones: California.

https://ourworldindata.org/natural-disasters

[altus]

22 minutes ago, trastrick said:

Fact is:

 

"Deaths from natural disasters have seen a large decline over the past century – from, in some years, millions of deaths per year to an average of 60,000 over the past decade."

 

"This decline is even more impressive when we consider the rate of population growth over this period. When we correct for population – showing this data in terms of death rates (measured per 100,000 people) – we see an even greater decline over the past century. This chart can be viewed here.

Number of deaths isn't the issue. As the report you selectively quote puts it:

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One of the major successes over the past century has been the dramatic decline in global deaths from natural disasters – this is despite the fact that the human population has increased rapidly over this period.

 

Behind this improvement has been the improvement in living standards; access to and development of resilient infrastructure; and effective response systems. These factors have been driven by an increase in incomes across the world.

As to your point about developments in at risk areas,

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It's also a fact that the "costs" of these disasters is rising with the population demanding increased developments in places like Hurricane Alley : Gulf States, Florida, Texas. Tornado Alley: Mid West, Historic floodplains: Louisiana. Earthquake and Wildfire Zones: California.

https://ourworldindata.org/natural-disasters

Whilst it has some impact on costs, the increase in frequency of natural disasters will have a much bigger impact. That graph shows 20-30 natural disaster events per year until about 1950 and goes up to 400 per year 50 years later. Given the number of earthquakes and volcanic events doesn't change much over time, the increase is almost entirely down to the effects of climatic changes.

 

[trastrick]

26 minutes ago, altus said:

Number of deaths isn't the issue. As the report you selectively quote puts it:

As to your point about developments in at risk areas,

Whilst it has some impact on costs, the increase in frequency of natural disasters will have a much bigger impact. That graph shows 20-30 natural disaster events per year until about 1950 and goes up to 400 per year 50 years later. Given the number of earthquakes and volcanic events doesn't change much over time, the increase is almost entirely down to the effects of climatic changes.

 

You can always hope!

 

I'm an optimist, Deaths will continue to decline.

 

If only we could get some sensible development and zoning restrictions for the obvious danger spots folks insist on living atop.

 

But no!

 

The politicians just survey the damage for a quick photo op, and "Vow to rebuild!" and promise a bunch of money, then back to their mansions for lunch!

 

Lol