cgksheff Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, melthebell said: Former labour leader Jeremy Corbyns views I can agree with much of what he says. However, the ideological talk fails to state what must be done, quickly, to stop what is going on, today. Edited March 12, 2022 by cgksheff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dromedary Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 1 hour ago, makapaka said: Yup.It’s only going one way this. Some context on that China report. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/9/chinas-xi-beijing-supports-peace-talks-between-russia-ukraine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRB Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 3 hours ago, spilldig said: Well it must have deterred him as nothing happened untill Mr Bidens watch. The planning was in place but Putin had no pressure to act whilst Trump was seemingly in support. The attached article reflects my thoughts . https://www.thebulwark.com/thank-god-trump-isnt-president-right-now-russia-putin-ukraine/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 I have heard people saying NATO should intervene. If NATO did get involved would that make NATO countries legitimate targets. This could result in the UK coming under attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hauxwell Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, harvey19 said: I have heard people saying NATO should intervene. If NATO did get involved would that make NATO countries legitimate targets. This could result in the UK coming under attack. I’m one of those who thinks NATO should not intervene. I also thought President Biden said that if Russia uses chemical weapons the USA will not get involved but I could be wrong about that. Heaven knows what the outcome will be. I’m curious to know how long it would take a nuclear bomb to reach us if it is fired from Russia. After the chemical attacks in Salisbury I have no doubt that we would be at the top of Putin’s list if NATO does decide to get involved. Edited March 12, 2022 by hauxwell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chekhov Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 I don't think NATO should get involved in a direct fight with Russia unless they invade a NATO member country. But I think we should be giving the Ukrainians maximum support short of that : as many arms as they want, as much humanitarian aid as possible, and imposing the absolute maximum in economic sanctions regardless of the cost to us. We should be doing all this for altruistic reason but also for ourselves, Putin is mad and there is no telling what he'll do if he "wins". Ukraine is fighting for itself, but also for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgksheff Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 (edited) 43 minutes ago, hauxwell said: I’m one of those who thinks NATO should not intervene. I also thought President Biden said that if Russia uses chemical weapons the USA will not get involved but I could be wrong about that. Heaven knows what the outcome will be. I’m curious to know how long it would take a nuclear bomb to reach us if it is fired from Russia. After the chemical attacks in Salisbury I have no doubt that we would be at the top of Putin’s list if NATO does decide to get involved. If Russia uses chemical weapons, a UN resolution can send in other countries. Doesn't have to be under the NATO flag. If Russia attacks anything in Poland e.g. aid deliveries, then NATO will be in Edited March 12, 2022 by cgksheff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 29 minutes ago, cgksheff said: If Russia uses chemical weapons, a UN resolution can send in other countries. Doesn't have to be under the NATO flag. If Russia attacks anything in Poland e.g. aid deliveries, then NATO will be in So if the UN intervenes would it make their member countries at war with Russia ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgksheff Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 (edited) 17 hours ago, harvey19 said: So if the UN intervenes would it make their member countries at war with Russia ? No. They would just undertake some reciprocal "special operations". To be honest, anyone that thinks that Russia is not at war against all the west is in for a rude awakening. Edited March 13, 2022 by cgksheff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 16 minutes ago, cgksheff said: No. They would just undertake some reciprocal "special operations". To be honest, anyone that thinks that Russia is not at war against all the west is in for s rude awakening. Why do you think Russia is at war with the west ? I presumed that when we left BAOR and the Berlin Wall came down the threat from the Warsaw Pact countries was no longer a serious threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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