Delbow Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 (edited) It seems Finland are likely to join NATO this year in response to this war, so if Putin was hoping to avoid having a land border with a NATO member by invading Ukraine, that's an 831 mile ballsup on his part, the ****head. Edited April 11, 2022 by Delbow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 (edited) 19 hours ago, Waldo said: You are linking modern day communism (i.e. Chinese Communist Party style) with traditional Chinese philosophy, esp. Taoism. The fundamental underlying ethos and principles of each, couldn't be further apart. Yet you seem to be drawing parallels (which just don't exist) between the two. You may as well claim that modern day Germans all have the same mentality as the Nazis' because they happen to be in the same part of the world (though at different times) and are possibly descendants etc. Hope that's clear. Anyhoo. Let's get back on topic shall we. No I made it quite clear remember? Here's what I posted. Communism is a political idealogy. Confusionism is a religious philosophy. China is arguably the largest Communist Country, and its official religions are Buddhism, Taoism, Catholicism, Protestantism, and Islam. In the early 21st century, there has been increasing official recognition of Confucianism and Chinese folk religion as part of China's cultural inheritance. - WIKI You can have political affiliations, religious affiliations, and/or philosophical affiliations at the same time. "Why Is Confucius Still Relevant Today? His Sound Bites Hold Up" The Chinese philosopher still affects the lives of nearly a quarter of humanity. - National Geographic. Anyway my main point that got lost, was that Western Governments must plan for the short term of their 4 year stint, (show the results now) while the communists can stay in power indefinitely and take the long view. Hence they have more patience in achieving their geopolitical ends, incrementally. Nothing to do with Hitler and the Nazis so let's move on? Edited April 12, 2022 by trastrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carosio Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Confucius still relevant to the thread I think; he said, 'Do not impose on others what is not yours' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 (edited) A glimmer of hope for the Ukrainian people? Turkey's strongman and Trump pal, Erdogan is hosting peace talks between the Ukraine and Russia. They appear to be making progress on the only logical and moral solution, a negotiated settlement. Russia, Ukraine ‘close to agreement’ in negotiations, says Turkey. "Turkey has said Russia and Ukraine made progress on their negotiations to halt the war and the two sides were “close to an agreement”. "Russian forces invaded Ukraine on February 24 with President Vladimir Putin calling his country’s actions a “special operation” meant to demilitarise Ukraine and purge it of what he sees as dangerous nationalists. Ukraine and the West say Putin launched an aggressive war of choice". https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/20/turkey-says-russia-ukraine-close-to-agreement Whatever! This might not sit well with some who favour a fight to the death with Biden's mortal enemy, Putin, because "they are winning", and it leaves the U.S, and Britain out in the cold. And of course the United Nations. Are they still relevant? Could Erdogan get a NOBEL, could Putin and Zelensky share one? Edited April 12, 2022 by trastrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geared Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Always gotta take those sort of reports with a pinch of salt. Was a good month ago that Putin apparently laid out his conditions for a ceasefire. They were easily achievable but nothing ever happened. Clearly it wasn't as easy as the news made out at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 (edited) Another glimmer of hope? I should sue The Guardian for plagiarism Looks like they are belatedly facing reality and repeating the "tripe" I have been posting for weeks. There is only one practical solution to solve this crisis. The Guardian Nato must help wind down this war – and stop stringing Ukraine along "Nato was never serious about admitting Ukraine. The Russian invasion has lowered Ukraine’s chances even further. "Amid the debate over the war in Ukraine, there’s widespread agreement on one point: the carnage and destruction will continue – not just for weeks, but for months or, according to some western officials, years or even decades. "Eventually, however, this war, like all others, will conclude, but not before Russia or Ukraine, perhaps both, become convinced that the losses – in blood and treasure – are unbearable and success beyond reach". https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/13/nato-ukraine-russia-end-war Turkey's Erdogan (a NATO Member) is doing his best to broker the on again/off again peace talks, but the rest of the Western warmongers who are fueling this fultile slaughter, hopefully will gradually get on board, but only after they found a new "narrative" that allows these incompetents to "save face"! Unfortunately, that will take more "blood and treasure", while they all consider the political outfall from changing course. A pox on all their houses.! This war can and should be ended - NOW! Edited April 13, 2022 by trastrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgksheff Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 5 hours ago, trastrick said: Another glimmer of hope? I should sue The Guardian for plagiarism Looks like they are belatedly facing reality and repeating the "tripe" I have been posting for weeks. There is only one practical solution to solve this crisis. The Guardian Nato must help wind down this war – and stop stringing Ukraine along "Nato was never serious about admitting Ukraine. The Russian invasion has lowered Ukraine’s chances even further. "Amid the debate over the war in Ukraine, there’s widespread agreement on one point: the carnage and destruction will continue – not just for weeks, but for months or, according to some western officials, years or even decades. "Eventually, however, this war, like all others, will conclude, but not before Russia or Ukraine, perhaps both, become convinced that the losses – in blood and treasure – are unbearable and success beyond reach". https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/13/nato-ukraine-russia-end-war Turkey's Erdogan (a NATO Member) is doing his best to broker the on again/off again peace talks, but the rest of the Western warmongers who are fueling this fultile slaughter, hopefully will gradually get on board, but only after they found a new "narrative" that allows these incompetents to "save face"! Unfortunately, that will take more "blood and treasure", while they all consider the political outfall from changing course. A pox on all their houses.! This war can and should be ended - NOW! The one person that could (and should) end this war, today, is Putin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuttsie Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 On 12/04/2022 at 15:00, trastrick said: A glimmer of hope for the Ukrainian people? Turkey's strongman and Trump pal, Erdogan is hosting peace talks between the Ukraine and Russia. They appear to be making progress on the only logical and moral solution, a negotiated settlement. Russia, Ukraine ‘close to agreement’ in negotiations, says Turkey. "Turkey has said Russia and Ukraine made progress on their negotiations to halt the war and the two sides were “close to an agreement”. "Russian forces invaded Ukraine on February 24 with President Vladimir Putin calling his country’s actions a “special operation” meant to demilitarise Ukraine and purge it of what he sees as dangerous nationalists. Ukraine and the West say Putin launched an aggressive war of choice". https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/20/turkey-says-russia-ukraine-close-to-agreement Whatever! This might not sit well with some who favour a fight to the death with Biden's mortal enemy, Putin, because "they are winning", and it leaves the U.S, and Britain out in the cold. And of course the United Nations. Are they still relevant? Could Erdogan get a NOBEL, could Putin and Zelensky share one? Turkey , Who's dictator Erdogon is holding chairmanship of piece talks , The Country that as we speak is invading Syria and massacring Kurds , That helps Azerbiajan invade and steal lands from Armenia and also occupies Northern Cyprus . Trasrick that having a laugh . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim117 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 6 hours ago, trastrick said: Another glimmer of hope? I should sue The Guardian for plagiarism Looks like they are belatedly facing reality and repeating the "tripe" I have been posting for weeks. There is only one practical solution to solve this crisis. The Guardian Nato must help wind down this war – and stop stringing Ukraine along "Nato was never serious about admitting Ukraine. The Russian invasion has lowered Ukraine’s chances even further. "Amid the debate over the war in Ukraine, there’s widespread agreement on one point: the carnage and destruction will continue – not just for weeks, but for months or, according to some western officials, years or even decades. "Eventually, however, this war, like all others, will conclude, but not before Russia or Ukraine, perhaps both, become convinced that the losses – in blood and treasure – are unbearable and success beyond reach". https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/apr/13/nato-ukraine-russia-end-war Turkey's Erdogan (a NATO Member) is doing his best to broker the on again/off again peace talks, but the rest of the Western warmongers who are fueling this fultile slaughter, hopefully will gradually get on board, but only after they found a new "narrative" that allows these incompetents to "save face"! Unfortunately, that will take more "blood and treasure", while they all consider the political outfall from changing course. A pox on all their houses.! This war can and should be ended - NOW! Are you on some sort of drugs that we aren’t? 21st century media has revealed Putins armies rapist terror tactics for the rabble they actually are. Every professional army on the planet has now seen Russia’s bare arse. Seriously dude,it’s a new world. Putin loved hybrid warfare because the old hamster cheeked poison dwarf didn’t actually understand it . Tag seen on wrecked Russian tank NLAW. Keep up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, cgksheff said: The one person that could (and should) end this war, today, is Putin. According to the MSM, Putin is an evil, war criminal, genocidal maniac. I doubt he would listen to you, but it wouldn't hurt to email him, if it makes you feel better? We need other solutions, and the recent Guardian piece looks like they are finally getting a clue. 15 hours ago, cuttsie said: Turkey , Who's dictator Erdogon is holding chairmanship of piece talks , The Country that as we speak is invading Syria and massacring Kurds , That helps Azerbiajan invade and steal lands from Armenia and also occupies Northern Cyprus . Trasrick that having a laugh . Yeah, Cuttsie, THAT guy! Why is he even in NATO? Edited April 14, 2022 by trastrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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