Ukraine: Invasion Imminent?

[altus]

1 hour ago, OlegAney said:

They  appear to be private actors  since Russian law, as far as I know,  prohibits its citizens from fighting for financial gain outside the country’s borders. De facto they are Putin's personnel under cover. Though technically, I guess Wagners are more like the US Blackwater group but perhaps more brainwashed with chauvinistic ideas.

 

They're not Nazis by any means. They can't be Nazi; they proudly honour their grandfathers who fought against German fascists  including   Ukrainian SS-Freiwilligen Division'"Galizien'  in the 2 WW.

If they can't be Nazis, explain why their founder, Dmitry Utkin, has Waffen-SS insignia tattoos.

[trastrick]

Well, it looks like the European Union is finally coming to terms, with the reality, that continued buying of Russian Gas and Oil Fossil Fuels, especially at the high prices Putin is charging them, is actually financing the slaughter, rape and destruction of the Ukraine.

 

(The obvious question that arises is how these "Paris Accord" signatories, who lecture the world about Fossil Fuel dependency, came to be dependent on a "mad, genicidal, war criminal",  which would appear to give lie to at least one of their accusations. Putin is no "madman", and their reluctance to understand that fact, is just one reason they are in the mess, they are.)

 

But no matter.

 

Their the EU Dear Leader, has "proposed" to place a ban on Russian  Oil imports.

 

Note, No mention of Russian Gas.

 

The proposal would take from 6 months to a year to implement, once it has been passed by the EU.

 

And there's the Rub! It would have to be passed.

 

Some member States, she says, "are strongly dependent on Russian oil. But we simply have to work on it." and their concerns must be accommodated."

 

So they can get a meeting organized to discuss it sometime in June, and they can argue about "exemptions" there.

 

Meanwhile the slaughter, rape and destruction will continue indefinitely, while they discuss their own "needs" to "minimize the impact" on their material lifestyles, and presumably, their political futures

 

So unless there is some other Leadership on the horizon, Turkey, U.N. a strong U.S.  who will lead a serious effort for a Negotiated Settlement, this latest fiasco and it's mayhem will continue.

 

The politicians and the warmongers will get rich, as usual, and their trained seals will clap, and the poor civilians will pay the price.

 

Sad!

 

God save the Ukrainians.

 

God save us all!

 

 

Edited May 4, 2022 by trastrick

[L00b]

The EU is neither a federation, nor a dictatorship, but a union of sovereign countries.

 

I know this must be hard to understand , for a Russophile.

[crookesey]

Radio 4 news this morning, apparently U.K. serial sex offenders are attempting to give shelter to Ukrainian women, after what they have gone through this is all they need.

[trastrick]

2 minutes ago, L00b said:

The EU is neither a federation, nor a dictatorship, but a union of sovereign countries.

 

I know this must be hard to understand , for a Russophile.

No Russophile here. mate.

 

I would have done what another recent leader would have done. Threaten to take out the Kremlin if they invade.

 

Like he did with North Korea, and the Taliban. and Iran's Terrorist Top General.

 

Totalitarians only respect strength, they thrive on weakness.

[Dromedary]

6 minutes ago, trastrick said:

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Their the EU Dear Leader, has "proposed" to place a ban on Russian  Oil imports.

 

Note, No mention of Russian Gas.

 

The proposal would take from 6 months to a year to implement, once it has been passed by the EU.

 

And there's the Rub! It would have to be passed.

 

And the longer the EU leave it the more money Putin will get to fund the war as gas and oil prices will rise dramatically before the EU implement any of the above.

[L00b]

1 minute ago, trastrick said:

No Russophile here. mate.

 

I would have done what another recent leader would have done. Threaten to take out the Kremlin if they invade.

 

Like he did with North Korea, and the Taliban. and Iran's Terrorist Top General.

 

Totalitarians only respect strength, they thrive on weakness.

None of whom have nukes deliverable on the US.

 

Remember our little aside about MAD? Only yesterday?

 

🙄

[trastrick]

1 minute ago, L00b said:

None of whom have nukes deliverable on the US.

 

Remember our little aside about MAD? Only yesterday?

 

🙄

MAD is only a useful tool if you have made it clear that you WILL use it.

 

Otherwise, it's just a waste of money!

 

A civilian gets killed whether she is vapourised by a nuke, or left to die in pieces in a burning cellar.

 

(See U.S. Drops Atom Bombs, on Hiroshima and Nagasaki!)

 

Niobody's tearing down statutes of the Democrats under who's Administration they decided to do that! 

 

[Guest makapaka]

Another day - another bounce towards WW3.
 

 

[L00b]

2 hours ago, trastrick said:

MAD is only a useful tool if you have made it clear that you WILL use it.

To my knowledge, put aside ill-informed pub counter-grade rethoric on Russian national TV by media stooges, and an instance or two of cautionary diplo-speak from NATO after abortive Russian bio false flag ops, nobody has done that in relation to the current conflict. Neither Putin, nor Biden, nor anyone else.

 

The issue of Russia’s actual nuclear strike capacity (as estimated by numerous experts on the topic), after over 20 years of Russian-style ‘maintenance’, might have something to do with the fact: there’s simply no need, the state of the balance is long well-known to the players.

Edited May 4, 2022 by L00b