trastrick Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, harvey19 said: Thank you for an interesting and sensible answer. It's only an opinion, against the current majority view. As the poster above, points out, I'm a nobody, a minority of one. I'm happy with that. But it's interesting how just one dissenting opinion from the "consensus" or the "current MSM narrative", can generate so much profanity and personal insults among certain groups of people. I find it fascinating, so I intend to continue! When that great book in the sky is written, we will all be on the record with our contributions, for better or worse. The internet never forgets! Maybe I'll write one someday, or maybe I'm just gathering material! Peace! Edited July 19, 2023 by trastrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRB Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 2 hours ago, trastrick said: Lol To paraphrase Arthur Conan Doyle, "Some people, my Dear Watson, are incapable of seeing the "bleeding"obvious, even though it is staring them in the face!" They are the ones who blame the horse, when it tires of pulling the wagon they are all riding in. They are the fools who will always be with us. Human nature! I'm a big fan of Einstein and Arthur Conan Doyle's "inductive reasoning", often misread as deductive reasoning. Where ID start with a theory and ends with a prediction, whereas "Inductive reasoning" starts with observed facts, looks for a pattern, and ends with a theory. An example of inductive reasoning that might be germain to this topic might be the following set of facts. Which Administrations were in power when Totalitarians made their major moves, in the last 100 years. or so? 1914 WW1 Germany Invades France, Woodrow Wilson, Democrat 1939 WW2 Germany Invades Poland F.D. Roosevelt, Democrat 1941 WW2 Japan Attacks America F.D. Roosevelt, Democrat 1946 Ho Chi Min Invades ViewtNam F.D. Roosevelt, Democrat 1950 North Korea Invades S. Korea H.Truman, Democrat 1979 Iran falls to Khomeini J. Carter, Democrat 1996 Osama bin Laden Officially Declares War on U.S. W. Clinton, Democrat 2014 Russia Invades Ukraine (Crimea) B. Obama, Democrat 2021 The Taliban take over Afghanistan J. Biden, Democrat 2022 Russia Invades Ukraine (Donbas) J. Biden, Democrat What does this tell you about the "dangers to democracy" posed by Republican Administrations, vs Democrat Administrations, which is the current "narrative" of the Left and their like minded friends in the Media.? What would a Sherlock Holmes, or an Einstein make of this? What do YOU make of this? More importantly, perhaps, what a Totalitarian would deduce. I am not at all sure what to make of this considering that the Republican Party was in power for about half the years under review. Are we to conclude that US foreign policy changed almost instantaneously as administrations changed? As you have stated many times America sees itself as the leader of the Western world and very actively has promoted its own interests around the world and America first is not a new concept. Similarly Russia seeks to regain control of its satellite states whether they like it or not. The battle for power and control will continue into the future irrespective of who is in the White House or the Kremlin and of course China. Brinkmanship is the name of the game and we can only hope that no faction overplays its’ hand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altus Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 1 hour ago, harvey19 said: Possibly but they must have their reasons for supporting the invasion of Ukraine. After they'd seen those who protested against the invasion given long jail sentences it's not surprising that those who disagree with the invasion are silent on the matter. Once being silent is seen as something those who object to the invasion do, not supporting it becomes seen as protesting. It's not difficult to see how state, or even just social, pressure could push people into voicing support for the invasion even if they don't. That's before you get to the gaslighting of the population by the not at all independent media, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_DADDY Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Interesting video from last year regarding Ukraine and the proxy war. https://fb.watch/lTWJQBq2eM/ Nail... Head.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackey lad Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 50 minutes ago, The_DADDY said: Interesting video from last year regarding Ukraine and the proxy war. https://fb.watch/lTWJQBq2eM/ Nail... Head.... Who is she ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollingJ Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 Just now, hackey lad said: Who is she ? An Irish MEP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_DADDY Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 24 minutes ago, hackey lad said: Who is she ? Clare Daly MEP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longcol Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, trastrick said: 1914 WW1 Germany Invades France, Woodrow Wilson, Democrat 1939 WW2 Germany Invades Poland F.D. Roosevelt, Democrat 1941 WW2 Japan Attacks America F.D. Roosevelt, Democrat 1946 Ho Chi Min Invades ViewtNam F.D. Roosevelt, Democrat 1950 North Korea Invades S. Korea H.Truman, Democrat 1979 Iran falls to Khomeini J. Carter, Democrat 1996 Osama bin Laden Officially Declares War on U.S. W. Clinton, Democrat 2014 Russia Invades Ukraine (Crimea) B. Obama, Democrat 2021 The Taliban take over Afghanistan J. Biden, Democrat 2022 Russia Invades Ukraine (Donbas) J. Biden, Democrat At a 2 second glance looks rather selective. Nothing happen in 1956 in Hungary when Eisenhower (Rep) was president? Or 2001 when Bin Laden attacked New York and Washington - Bush (Rep) President. Edited July 19, 2023 by Longcol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 45 minutes ago, Longcol said: At a 2 second glance looks rather selective. Nothing happen in 1956 in Hungary when Eisenhower (Rep) was president? Or 2001 when Bin Laden attacked New York and Washington - Bush (Rep) President. Every thing he writes is selective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longcol Posted July 19, 2023 Share Posted July 19, 2023 13 minutes ago, Organgrinder said: Every thing he writes is selective Copies and pastes from MAGA sites more like. Now who was US President when Iraq invaded Kuwait? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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