ab6262 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 12 hours ago, kidley said: I would be prepaird to gamble a decent amount of money that Putin was and has no intention of invading Ukraine totally agree its just sabre rattling to scare the west, it seems he succeeded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgksheff Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 I will not be surprised if the DomBas doesn't come under a greater level of Russian control. I would also think it wise for us to confirm that Ukraine will not be admitted to NATO, although that would never prevent us supporting them in the event of aggression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, ab6262 said: totally agree its just sabre rattling to scare the west, it seems he succeeded. Sabre rattling, but by whom? Biden's repeated warnings, of this "imminent invasion", complete with the "Grim Toll if Putin Pursues Full Invasion of Ukraineh, a full invasion, including the potential deaths of 25,000 to 50,000 ..." while quietly Putin plays war games could be just more Biden fear mongering. Even Ukraine's President Zelensky says "Ukraine crisis: "Don't create panic", Zelensky tells West https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60174684 "Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky has called on the West not to create panic amid the build-up of Russian troops on his country's borders. "He told reporters that warnings of an imminent invasion were putting Ukraine's economy at risk. "Russia, however, denies it is planning to invade and on Friday its foreign minister said Moscow did not want war. While Russia has about 100,000 troops on Ukraine's borders, Mr Zelensky said he did not see a greater threat now than during a similar massing of troops last spring. "There are signals even from respected leaders of states, they just say that tomorrow there will be war. This is panic - how much does it cost for our state?" he told the press conference in Kyiv. So what is really going on here? A chance for Biden's "stern warnings to Putin" to deter Putin from a full military invasion that was never going to happen?, so that old joe could be seen as strong and decisive? With his poll numbers tanking, and the Mid Term elections coming up, they have to do something. They are desperate. Would they resort to such panic mongering propaganda? Well, a political party that panicked the world about a flu variant, blamed Trump for the death toll, then basically ignored it when it more than doubled under Biden (943,000 today), and engaged in a 5 year "Russian Collusion" conspiracy hoax, and 2 failed Impeachment attempts, should not be trusted. They are desperate! Edited February 13, 2022 by trastrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRESLEY Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 If Politicians had to go and fight, there would be either no wars or very few, infact, I'll go with no wars. The bunch of you know what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollingJ Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 19 minutes ago, PRESLEY said: If Politicians had to go and fight, there would be either no wars or very few, infact, I'll go with no wars. The bunch of you know what. I totally agree - politicians - of whatever persuasion, are grade-one cowards, except when it come to putting others life at risk, whilst ensuring they have a nice big safe bunker to hide in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 (edited) No chance of the West being at war for a long time, if ever! With the current state of Western governments' leadership. Nobody, but nobody in their right mind would ever volunteer to risk life and limb for these corrupt politicians. "Hell no, I won't go! You wanna start WW3 over THAT?" Wars will go on in the rest of the World, and the West will just be absorbed by sheer numbers of the really dedicated idealogues. So just relax and enjoy your telly! Don't worry, be happy! Edited February 13, 2022 by trastrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kidorry Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 1 hour ago, cgksheff said: I will not be surprised if the DomBas doesn't come under a greater level of Russian control. I would also think it wise for us to confirm that Ukraine will not be admitted to NATO, although that would never prevent us supporting them in the event of aggression. Most of the Donbas region is under their control. Ukraine tensions: After eight years of war, an eastern city unifies against Russia - BBC News Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgksheff Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 3 hours ago, Kidorry said: Most of the Donbas region is under their control. Ukraine tensions: After eight years of war, an eastern city unifies against Russia - BBC News ... as I said in an earlier post!😀 Now look to a further formalisation of that situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted February 13, 2022 Author Share Posted February 13, 2022 5 hours ago, trastrick said: No chance of the West being at war for a long time, if ever! With the current state of Western governments' leadership. Nobody, but nobody in their right mind would ever volunteer to risk life and limb for these corrupt politicians. "Hell no, I won't go! You wanna start WW3 over THAT?" Wars will go on in the rest of the World, and the West will just be absorbed by sheer numbers of the really dedicated idealogues. So just relax and enjoy your telly! Don't worry, be happy! Yes that's the feeling I get too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudds1 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 On 12/02/2022 at 10:28, Jack Grey said: Hes gonna invade on Wednesday apparently We should take as many female Ukrainian refugees as we can 👍 Just been to Ukraine as well. I’ve got 6 spare rooms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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