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13 hours ago, Resident said:

People need to step outside of South Yorkshire and experience public transport outside the county lines. 

 

Here's the price for a 17 min journey in Cumbria (Stagecoach, Kendal bus station to Lake Windermere, popular route).

Similar journey in Sheffield is £2.20 single, £4.50 day. 

 

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The 7 day ticket is £30.50, the 28 day ticket is £110.00

 

The reasoning for the fares is actually quite simple. By far the majority of passengers are concessions and the compensation for carriage of them is at a percentage of the adult fare. This means that they are actually able to get a reasonable level of payment unlike in our area where if a bus was actually full of concessions it would be running at a loss. (That is how little we pay operators in our area for carrying concessions).

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15 hours ago, sedith said:

£3.80 for three stops in Minehead with First Bus!!! Distance of around a mile!

 

This is how you price yourself out of the market. Only disabled or elderly people will need a bus for three stops. Any healthy person will walk it.

I have a disabled pass but can walk fine and do that for a mile before taking a bus.

 

There was a bit on ITV news last night with people crying their local buses that were there 75 years discontinued. Some people there could not drive for medical reasons and said that they would have to move without the bus after living there all their life. Others saying they would be completely isolated.

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10 hours ago, dutch said:

This is how you price yourself out of the market. Only disabled or elderly people will need a bus for three stops. Any healthy person will walk it.

I have a disabled pass but can walk fine and do that for a mile before taking a bus.

 

There was a bit on ITV news last night with people crying their local buses that were there 75 years discontinued. Some people there could not drive for medical reasons and said that they would have to move without the bus after living there all their life. Others saying they would be completely isolated.

The problem with a lot of buses that go to outlying villages is lack of use. One bus per hour from 7am till 10pm costs a small fortune & when there's only Ida & Eric catching it there and back once a week with a bus pass which nets the bus company next to nothing you can see why services get cut. Of course as soon as it's cut full bus loads of people come out and say how it's cutting a lifeline for the area. 

The X54 (Harthill - Sheffield, via Todwick, Aston, Swallownest, Treeton, Catcliffe) is a prime example of this. Recently there has been a outcry in Todwick because they only get one an hour and they want a better, more frequent, more direct service to Sheffield. Even the local MP got involved and demanded an answer from First. 

From Harthill to Aston the average daily passenger numbers for X54 per journey is less than 0.2 (zero point two) yet if you were to believe the residents of Todwick there are full bus loads of them waiting every hour. 

From Aston to Sheffield the numbers pick up vastly and is pretty much acts as a prop for the Harthill - Aston segment of the journey. 

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simple answer to y bus fares have to go up is due to cost of running the buses have gone up, tell me something that hasn't gone up in price in the last few months,


Perfect example

Stocksbridge SuperTram Link Bus

This bus route has had to move up a fair category due to it been no profitable (not enough people catching it) it a vicious circle but its a business they wont run it at a loss forever, and more you will have to worry about is the new takeover of stagecoach,

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Here's an idea: let's decide as a modern, intelligent, wealthy society how we want bus services to help all of us get around our country and combat climate change at the same time. Then we can decide as a society who owns and controls such services, then decide how to construct a tax system to pay for it.

 

Alternatively, we can continue giving the big bus companies loads of money and they can carry on  taking the **** out of us all for years on end while the ice caps melt.

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