Is Sheffield Town Center Getting Worse Or Better ?

[fools]

1 hour ago, Mister M said:

Gone is the hole in the road which stank of stale urine - we now have trams

Gone is the eggbox with the grass garden in front - we now have a much more pleasant fountains with seating area, which is lovely in Summer.

The cluttered mess that replaced the simple design of the hole in the road isn't at all aesthetically pleasing.

 

Nor is loads of paving slabs and ball bearings instead of gardens with flowers in. It had proper seating before, and was lovely in summer before.

 

Trams and their infrastructure will never be pretty.

Edited March 24, 2022 by fools

[cuttsie]

27 minutes ago, HeHasRisen said:

Oh, look at who started it 🤣

 

 

It got closed by Agent Orange and mort . It was going great guns with many proper Sheffielders contributing  the trolls got their way and Mort struck . Hell has risen from the Ashes or maybe some where else eh!!!!!!!.

35 minutes ago, HeHasRisen said:

Well yes, I am merely quoting another forum member who, at the time, said all the building needed was a lick of paint and new gents toilets. Guess who it was?

 

Clue: old Sheffield is all he harps on about.

You talking to me .

Edited March 24, 2022 by cuttsie

[Anna B]

1 hour ago, Mister M said:

I think Sheffield City Centre has improved since I first came to Sheffield in 1990

Gone is the hole in the road which stank of stale urine - we now have trams

Gone is the eggbox with the grass garden in front - we now have a much more pleasant fountains with seating area, which is lovely in Summer. The Winter Gardens is lovely too.

The Moor market is clean looking, smells fresh . The old Castlegate Market was an eyesore and stank.

Okay there aren't as many public toilets as there were 30 years ago, and Spoils has gone as has Virgin Megastore. Other than that things have improved.

I think some people are moaners, and invent reasons for not doing something because it's too much like hard work

Great to see some positive comments. I think you're right, a lot has improved. Still a way to go though.

 

Personally I would relocate the market from the bottom of the Moor, (wrong place) and put it inthe old John Lewis building, right in the middle of town, and revamp Chapel walk to become an interesting independent and artisan shopping street opening onto Fargate. 

[cuttsie]

2 hours ago, Anna B said:

Great to see some positive comments. I think you're right, a lot has improved. Still a way to go though.

 

Personally I would relocate the market from the bottom of the Moor, (wrong place) and put it inthe old John Lewis building, right in the middle of town, and revamp Chapel walk to become an interesting independent and artisan shopping street opening onto Fargate. 

bang on 

[crookesey]

2 hours ago, Anna B said:

Great to see some positive comments. I think you're right, a lot has improved. Still a way to go though.

 

Personally I would relocate the market from the bottom of the Moor, (wrong place) and put it inthe old John Lewis building, right in the middle of town, and revamp Chapel walk to become an interesting independent and artisan shopping street opening onto Fargate. 

I can’t see it getting through the first stage of health and safety in respect of the John Lewis building, plus parking for stall holders difficulties, let alone delivery vehicles. Now Chapel Walk, that’s not a bad shout, I just wonder what the rents would be.

Edited March 24, 2022 by crookesey

[Jeffrey Shaw]

24 minutes ago, crookesey said:

I just wonder what the rents would be.

Yes. In fact, the biggest problem with city centre company premises is the high rents, not the Business Rates (NNDR).

[Mister M]

10 hours ago, crookesey said:

You’ve answered your own question, it’s not the place for decent folk to go.

So where do 'decent' people go?

[crookesey]

1 minute ago, Mister M said:

So where do 'decent' people go?

If you don’t know I can’t help you.

[Mister M]

8 minutes ago, crookesey said:

If you don’t know I can’t help you.

I don't want to go, I just want to know where to  avoid!

[Mister M]

4 hours ago, fools said:

The cluttered mess that replaced the simple design of the hole in the road isn't at all aesthetically pleasing.

 

Nor is loads of paving slabs and ball bearings instead of gardens with flowers in. It had proper seating before, and was lovely in summer before.

 

Trams and their infrastructure will never be pretty.

Well I suppose beauty is in the eye of the beholder.... And I can't say that the smell of stale urine that lingered around the hole in the road was aesthetically pleasing either.

But at least the trams are functional, unlike the moving staircases up and down the hole in the road which never worked!

Edited March 24, 2022 by Mister M