Dangerous Dogs

[El Cid]

The dangerous dogs act of 1991 appears not to be working. In that era there were around 2 people killed per year by dogs, that number has now doubled.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_Kingdom

 

Another news report of two injured children today and a baby killed earlier this week.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-60829837

 

Is there any news of changes to the law, that will save lives?

[Dromedary]

9 minutes ago, El Cid said:

The dangerous dogs act of 1991 appears not to be working. In that era there were around 2 people killed per year by dogs, that number has now doubled.

In what way is it not working?

 

9 minutes ago, El Cid said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_Kingdom

 

Another news report of two injured children today and a baby killed earlier this week.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-60829837

 

Is there any news of changes to the law, that will save lives?

No and again no.

 

Given the estimated amount of dogs in the UK is around 12.5 million then it shows that dog attacks are extremely rare in the UK.

[El Cid]

8 hours ago, Dromedary said:

In what way is it not working?

If you look at the wiki page(info from ONS) the most recent 6 year show 20 deaths caused by dog attacks, 6 years in the 80s show 8 deaths caused by dog attacks.

Edited March 27, 2022 by El Cid

[Dromedary]

2 hours ago, El Cid said:

If you look at the wiki page(info from ONS) the most recent 6 year show 20 deaths caused by dog attacks, 6 years in the 80s show 8 deaths caused by dog attacks.

Which actually proves my point in that dog attacks are still a very rare occurrence given how many dogs there are around.

 

The Dangerous Dogs Act was a badly thought out piece of legislation and rushed through Parliament on a knee jerk reaction prompted by the media to something that hardly exists. In most cases, and also with the recent one, the dog in question was not on the dangerous list anyway. The DDA was designed to ""to rid the country of the menace of these fighting dogs", a quote by Bob Cryer who introduced the bill.

[El Cid]

UK estimates suggest that 740 people per 100 000 population per year are bitten by dogs with 250,000 people attending minor injury and emergency units each year due to dog bites. Many non-fatal and fatal dog attacks may be preventable.

 

http://sciencesearch.defra.gov.uk/Default.aspx?Menu=Menu&Module=More&Location=None&Completed=0&ProjectID=16649

 

In 20 years, admissions for dog bites almost tripled, from six to 15 per 100,000 people, which equalled 8,000 admissions in 2018. Children aged under 14 made up a quarter of that number.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/apr/15/dog-bite-britain-the-problem-with-the-pandemic-puppy-explosion

 

 

[Dromedary]

42 minutes ago, El Cid said:

UK estimates suggest that 740 people per 100 000 population per year are bitten by dogs with 250,000 people attending minor injury and emergency units each year due to dog bites. Many non-fatal and fatal dog attacks may be preventable.

 

http://sciencesearch.defra.gov.uk/Default.aspx?Menu=Menu&Module=More&Location=None&Completed=0&ProjectID=16649

 

In 20 years, admissions for dog bites almost tripled, from six to 15 per 100,000 people, which equalled 8,000 admissions in 2018. Children aged under 14 made up a quarter of that number.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/apr/15/dog-bite-britain-the-problem-with-the-pandemic-puppy-explosion

 

 

And that has exactly what to do with the OP and the Dangerous Dogs Act?

[El Cid]

1 hour ago, Dromedary said:

And that has exactly what to do with the OP and the Dangerous Dogs Act?

I agree the dangerous dogs act is poor. There is a massive trade in dogs.

Do you think that the person that 'sold' the dog a week ago that went on to kill a 17-month-old girl should shoulder some responsibility?

If only the people that bought and traded dogs had some responsibility, we could chip all dogs and then hold people accountable.

I am guessing that is not happening.

There are instances where retailers have sold items and it has resulted in peoples deaths, it has cost some retailers millions.

[Dromedary]

39 minutes ago, El Cid said:

....Do you think that the person that 'sold' the dog a week ago that went on to kill a 17-month-old girl should shoulder some responsibility?

No...

 

The dog in question I believe was not on the dangerous dogs list so it was a perfectly legal breed to have and sell. 

 

39 minutes ago, El Cid said:

If only the people that bought and traded dogs had some responsibility, we could chip all dogs and then hold people accountable.

Since April 2016 it is compulsory for all dogs in the UK to be microchipped and as a responsible dog owner mine have been.

 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, El Cid said:

I agree the dangerous dogs act is poor. There is a massive trade in dogs.

Do you think that the person that 'sold' the dog a week ago that went on to kill a 17-month-old girl should shoulder some responsibility?

If only the people that bought and traded dogs had some responsibility, we could chip all dogs and then hold people accountable.

I am guessing that is not happening.

There are instances where retailers have sold items and it has resulted in peoples deaths, it has cost some retailers millions.

I fully agree with you that more should be done to make people bear responsibility in cases like this.

Microchipping dogs does nothing to deal with vicious dogs and a responsible owner needs to be more responsible than microchipping and thinking "I've done my bit".

[cgksheff]

4 hours ago, Organgrinder said:

I fully agree with you that more should be done to make people bear responsibility in cases like this.

Microchipping dogs does nothing to deal with vicious dogs and a responsible owner needs to be more responsible than microchipping and thinking "I've done my bit".

Those that should bear the greatest responsibility in the most recent case are the parents.