Anna B Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 22 minutes ago, El Cid said: If the prison sentence was reduced to 12 months it would save the taxpayer over £60,000 in prison costs. Where do people get these valuations from? I'm not saying you're wrong, but if you're right it's ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgksheff Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 They reckon he will be out on a tag within 10 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 50 minutes ago, cgksheff said: They reckon he will be out on a tag within 10 months. Did he get to keep the money he'd hidden, or will he be truly bankrupt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgksheff Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 29 minutes ago, Anna B said: Did he get to keep the money he'd hidden, or will he be truly bankrupt? My understanding is the gains from the hidden assets were distributed and spent, becoming unavailable to the trustees. He does live in a very nice property and will have restrictions on his lifestyle for ten years, but I guess he will be as "bankrupt" as Katie Price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 3 hours ago, Anna B said: Where do people get these valuations from? I'm not saying you're wrong, but if you're right it's ridiculous. It now costs £45,000 per year to keep someone in Jail for 12 months. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1202172/cost-per-prisoner-england-and-wales/#:~:text=In 2019%2F20%2C the average,around 9.45 thousand British pounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 56 minutes ago, West 77 said: And if they abolished prison sentences all together and shot people convicted of criminal offences it would save the taxpayer £millions in prison costs. The only downside is prison officers would be made redundant and receive taxpayer money as a consequence of losing their jobs. We would need a new PM if they were shot for FPN! It costs all that money, yet it doesn't work, better to educate prisoners so they can go straight, that might cost more in the short term Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 1 hour ago, El Cid said: It now costs £45,000 per year to keep someone in Jail for 12 months. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1202172/cost-per-prisoner-england-and-wales/#:~:text=In 2019%2F20%2C the average,around 9.45 thousand British pounds. Good grief, how ridiculous, it would be cheaper to give the money to the convict to repair his life, at least he wouldn't reoffend, unlike many of the prison population do at present. But seriously, if they invested that sort of money in proper, meaningful rehabilitation it would probably be a lot more cost effective. Poverty is a curse, it is the root of many evils, includinng much crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron99 Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 (edited) I'll go out on a limb here & guess that no body on here is one of Becker's creditors & aren't out of pocket by the actions of this now convicted criminal? Who knows eh? Someone, some organisation with employees might have gone out of business due to Becker not paying back his dues or demands on time while hiding his assets away? Edited May 2, 2022 by Baron99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRESLEY Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 It'll be a case of come back alls forgiven at Wimbledom when he finishes his short term holiday at HMP earning thousands off the beeb then on to other tournaments around the world earning more. Talk about living the dream whilst enduring a minor SET back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECCOnoob Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Anna B said: Good grief, how ridiculous, it would be cheaper to give the money to the convict to repair his life, at least he wouldn't reoffend, unlike many of the prison population do at present. But seriously, if they invested that sort of money in proper, meaningful rehabilitation it would probably be a lot more cost effective. Poverty is a curse, it is the root of many evils, includinng much crime. You easily state "how ridiculous" as some throwaway line but what exactly does that break down to. Where exactly are the detailed figures which we can all make comparisons against. Anyone can get the headline amount and react to it. Plenty do that with the NHS and their own 'obscene" budget but im sure you would counter is never enough. After all, it certainly appears that looking after a prisoner is a lot less than respite care or nursing homes charge per week. Maybe it's those greedy overcharging divisions in the NHS, Councils and care home providers who are the 'ridiculous' ones. Makes prisons or private prison operators look like a bit of a bargain in comparison So the stats say the average incarcerated costed £45k a year which breaks down to about £124 pounds a day. Now obviously accounting for the fact that some prisoners will require more needs and expenditure over others such as high security or special needs, just how much excessive and unreasonable is that average working out at. It is not right to compare it to the average living expenditure of the man in the street nor fairly comparable to a nights accommodation in a hotel. We are looking at 24/7 enhanced security patrol's, guards, cameras, controlled door systems and access points, barriers and fences, secured transport.... which require dozens or hundreds of staff, operations controls and management. What about all the other services a prison has to provide. Medical teams, education services, workshops, counselling services, chaplaincy, legal services, maintenance, laundry, cleaning, equipment and supplies. Each prisoner has to be fed and watered 3 times a day and that's not going to be popping down to the supermarket and making their own dinner. It requires a team of cooks whom also have extra responsibilities of keeping tabs on any prison labour also working the kitchens. Seems to be another no-win situation. One minute people screaming lock them up and throw away the key...... the next minute people are screaming about the 'outrageous' cost of keeping a prisoner for X years. I am a little curious, If it was a banker or politician who was busted for hiding assets, tax evasion and committing fraud people on here would be demanding they be strung up. Yet a popular former sportsman and celebrity does it, and suddenly the mood from some is all sympathy and let him repay his debt by giving to the community..... what a fickle nation we are. Edited May 2, 2022 by ECCOnoob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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