Modern Life Is Rubbish

[Chekhov]

14 minutes ago, RollingJ said:

No, they are not banned, just not operated in general public use as O-M-O is cheaper. If my memory serves me correctly, the reason for closing the doors on the New Routemasters was partly safety/ partly revenue protection, but I'd have to find the article(s) -by professional industry writers - to confirm.

I thought it was mainly "safety"

I can remember when I dropped my phone on the track at Doncaster station. It was literally 5 feet from where I stood, and on a line where I have never seen a train go more than about 20mph and, in fact nearly all stop on that platform anyway. I could literally have nipped down and fetched it in about 10 seconds flat. But knowing the extreme "do not go on the track" attitude of railway staff I thought I'd ask them to get it instead rather than risk a load of hassle. Eventually some bloke turned up with a long handled litter picker and just managed to get it. After thanking him I asked what would have happened if it had been a few feet further out, i.e. out of range of said litter picker, "oh", he matter of factly said, "it'd have had to stay there".

You what ! I thought, you must be ******* joking.... But I really don't think he was.

 

 Exactly how much safer will not going on the track here make me ? 

And what are we sacrificing to achieve that ? (a phone.....)

Edited June 28, 2022 by Chekhov

[Chekhov]

9 minutes ago, sibon said:

People have gotten effin soft. That’s the effin problem

You are absolutely spot on, couldn't agree more, In fact think the response to Covid by the democracies is part of the reason Putin invaded the Ukraine. He must have been looking at us and thinking if they go that far to try and limit deaths they won't do anything about Ukraine that puts any of them in any danger. And he was right about that, and for the same reason I do not think we would fight a Falklands war again (even if we had big enough armed forces to do so, which we do not anyway).
Unfortunately for him, he misjudged how strongly Ukraine would resist, thus giving them time for the West to supply Ukraine with massive amounts of weaponry (but no men, so no British have to die....).

[hackey lad]

56 minutes ago, Chekhov said:

Does that include a battery in a smoke alarm......

 

No absolutely not. I have never had any of my gas boilers serviced.

Why would I ?

Tell me, since you appear to be an expert in this, exactly what do you get for a "boiler service" ? 

Why is one necessary ?  And saying "for safety" is not an acceptable answer, I want to know exactly why a boiler service is required. And the approximate risk of it not being done, e.g. 1 in xx million of xxxxxx occurring.

Does your car have an MOT every year ? do you have it serviced ?

[steve68]

Regulations require landlords to have the electrical installations in their properties inspected and tested by a person who is qualified and competent, at an interval of at least every 5 years. Landlords have to provide a copy of the electrical safety report to their tenants, and to their local authority if requested.

 

This means that all landlords now have to do what good landlords already do: make sure the electrical installations in their rented properties are safe.

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/electrical-safety-standards-in-the-private-rented-sector-guidance-for-landlords-tenants-and-local-authorities/guide-for-landlords-electrical-safety-standards-in-the-private-rented-sector

[Guest sibon]

10 minutes ago, Chekhov said:

You are absolutely spot on, couldn't agree more, 
 

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More wild animals for Sheffield and Oughtibridge.

 

We could add  venomous spiders to the list and poison dart frogs. But they would probably have to go in the Winter Gardens .

 

Crocodiles in the Don by Oughtibridge Cricket ground . That’ll show those nanny pamby, pad wearing, helmeted cricketers.

 

You know it makes sense.

Edited June 28, 2022 by sibon

[trastrick]

Just now, sibon said:

Crocodiles in the Don by Oughti Cricket ground . That’ll show those nanny pamby pad wearing, helmeted cricketers.

 

You know it makes sense.

Give 'em tennis balls to play with. Cut the crap. No macho gear needed!

 

"If only one contusion, hamstring, elbow can be saved".

 

Think about the load on the NHS! For a kids ball game?

 

 

Edited June 28, 2022 by trastrick

[Bargepole23]

22 minutes ago, Chekhov said:

No YOU do.

You pay out £xxx every year and you don't even know why.

 

>> I'm not trying to prove a point for you.<<

 

But you are ! You are saying I am reckless or with an insufficient concern for "safety", but when I ask you to quantify that, either for gas boiler servicing, or train windows which no longer open, or house electrical checks, or (most obviously) Covid restrictions, you never come up with any stats to back your position. And, bearing in mind people like you are arguing for negative changes to people's lives and freedoms (over what they used to be) it is incumbent upon you and other people arguing for that to come up with the cast iron proof that they are necessary. Just saying "because it's safer" is meaningless because "safety" is a relative word.

Typically on a safety system, we service and test the system at an interval defined by the manufacturer (boiler manufacturer) to maintain the reliability of those safety functions. Happens all the time on a larger scale on petrochem/gas production/pharma manufacturing sites around the world

 

So the boiler designer has specified an interval which brings the reliability of the safety components back up to what the relibility was when manufactured.

22 minutes ago, Chekhov said:

No YOU do.

You pay out £xxx every year and you don't even know why.

 

>> I'm not trying to prove a point for you.<<

 

But you are ! You are saying I am reckless or with an insufficient concern for "safety", but when I ask you to quantify that, either for gas boiler servicing, or train windows which no longer open, or house electrical checks, or (most obviously) Covid restrictions, you never come up with any stats to back your position. And, bearing in mind people like you are arguing for negative changes to people's lives and freedoms (over what they used to be) it is incumbent upon you and other people arguing for that to come up with the cast iron proof that they are necessary. Just saying "because it's safer" is meaningless because "safety" is a relative word.

Typically on a safety system, we service and test the system at an interval defined by the manufacturer (boiler manufacturer) to maintain the reliability of those safety functions. Happens all the time on a larger scale on petrochem/gas production/pharma manufacturing sites around the world

 

So the boiler designer has specified an interval which brings the reliability of the safety components back up to what the relibility was when manufactured.

[Tyke02]

2 hours ago, Chekhov said:

A friend of mine rents out her Mum's house (to help pay her care home fees) she has just been sent this communication by the letting agents :

 

The Smoke & Carbon Monoxide Alarm (Amendment) Regulations 2022
You may be aware that following a consultation, the Government announced late last year that it planned to extend the rules for smoke and carbon monoxide alarms within all rented property in England.  They have now done so by amending the Smoke & Carbon Monoxide Alarms (England) Regulations.

 

Now, I am sure the usual suspects on here will say "great, people will now be safer" (not sure how much safer, marginally so is probably the case).

So, I would ask these questions :

 

1 - We have yet more regulations, how many more would be reasonable ? Is there no end to all this ?

2 - A Carbon Monoxide alarm is a relatively inexpensive piece of kit (a smoke alarm even cheaper) and they're removable so any tenant can take it with them if and when they move out. Why is there no onus on the tenants to protect themselves, like anyone is their own house ?

 

 But the overwhelming feeling I get is how Effin' complicated life is becoming, and how much worse is it going to get ? Whatever happened to personal responsibility ? Do the government, and the usual suspects on here, really think people are so incapable of looking after themselves ? Is that attitude not a bit insulting ?

Your indignation is a little late, as private landlords have been obliged to fit smoke and CO alarms since 2015. These revised regulations merely make some changes to what was already required.

[Mr Bloke]

10 minutes ago, sibon said:

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More wild animals for Sheffield and Oughtibridge.

 

We could add  venomous spiders to the list and poison dart frogs. But they would probably have to go in the Winter Gardens .

 

Crocodiles in the Don by Oughtibridge Cricket ground . That’ll show those nanny pamby, pad wearing, helmeted cricketers.

 

You know it makes sense.

Hmmm...

If it's any help Mr Sibon, I know someone who may be able to do you a good deal on a cockatoo...

... only one previous owner and answers to the name of Flapper.

It's normally quite placid but has been known to give a nasty peck to anyone if they rub it up the wrong way!

[Guest sibon]

7 minutes ago, Mr Bloke said:

Hmmm...

If it's any help Mr Sibon, I know someone who may be able to do you a good deal on a cockatoo...

... only one previous owner and answers to the name of Flapper.

It's normally quite placid but has been known to give a nasty peck to anyone if they rub it up the wrong way!

You do talk some bull about cockatoos, Mr B.

 

A cockatoo isn’t dangerous.  Many people keep them in their homes for their own entertainment.