Modern Life Is Rubbish

[trastrick]

 

39 minutes ago, Delayed said:

Why do you think an account of someone attempting suicide would be a joke? 

 

And how does that reflect on the countries ability to defend itself?

No mention of suicide in that report, pal.

 

The joke is the aftermath, of a trained driver, just doing his job!

 

Sounds like we need to import some less traumatized train drivers. 

 

 

 

Edited March 5, 2023 by trastrick

[Delayed]

5 minutes ago, trastrick said:

 

No mention of suicide in that report, pal.

 

The joke is the aftermath, of a trained driver, just doing his job!

 

Sounds like we need to import some less traumatized train drivers. 

 

 

 

Ok. No problems.

 

Says more about you than a driver getting traumatised for having nearly killed someone.

 

 

[Chekhov]

11 hours ago, Annie Bynnol said:

     To make it very clear I have not said "...  "really dangerous to have carriage windows which open far enough to put your head out of"...". 

     Usual inaccuracy re 'the ban'.

     Carriage design moved away from the need to open windows so that doors could be opened by passengers,  decades ago with the last vehicles going out of service years ago. No need for a ban.

     Heritage railways have been asked to review their safety practice. No need for a ban.

     A few 'heritage' railway companies operate especially upgraded and maintained vehicles on our 120 mph mainlines. A modification that prevents people from leaning out is now required. The ban

    There are thousands of foot crossings on the ECML and elsewhere on our railways. They are designed and maintained with your safety in mind, use them as thousands of legitimate pedestrians do each day. 

Latest fare rise: 5.9%.

 

Rail fares, esp flexible ones or turn up and go ones (the ones most likely to tempt those debating whether to use their car or the train) are incredibly expensive : Fact

 

The fares are so expensive they are putting many people off rail travel and causing them to use the roads instead : Fact

 

The roads are far more dangerous and therefore the expensive  fares will be causing more deaths. It is only a small number, but if even that small number had been on the railways we'd have uproar from the likes of you : Fact

 

Safety costs money and the last fraction of a percent of safety costs the most* :

Fact

 

Thus, in terms of total deaths, the massive amount of money spent to gain that last fraction of a percent of safety on the railways is not actually saving any lives at all : Fact

 

* I hate to think how much all those hundreds of miles of ugly palisade fencing cost, or those incredibly expensive and ugly footbridges with the ramps to replace barrow crossings even on lines with a low speed limit.

 

  >> To make it very clear I have not said "...  "really dangerous to have carriage windows which open far enough to put your head out of"...".<<
 

Pleased to hear it, we agree on one thing at least. 

 

 >>Carriage design moved away from the need to open windows so that doors could be opened by passengers, decades ago with the last vehicles going out of service years ago. No need for a ban.<<

 

Incorrect, also see :

 

 

 

 

 

14 hours ago, Annie Bynnol said:

    I don't know, I was not around then, but I do know that instead of just being a single track it then Connell then had 5 platforms, being then  a railway junction, turntable and sidings shunter, drivers and firemen available locally it would have not have caused such disruption. Your reaction is as ignorant as some of the passengers who until they were told that by the guard that the  driver had only just returned after a fatality Helensburgh a few weeks earlier, had no sympathy for a man who was visibly in a state of shock and in no way capable of looking after himself let alone be responsible for train loads of people over three hours. 

If his nerves were that bad surely he should not have been at work ?

The great majority of fatalities on the railways are suicides, and no amount of fencing (or anything) else will stop them. But, just to make it clear, I think people committing suicide on the railways are particularly selfish. If one is sick of life and wants to end it (which, in some cases, is perfectly rational) one should not involve others.

[trastrick]

19 minutes ago, Delayed said:

Ok. No problems.

 

Says more about you than a driver getting traumatised for having nearly killed someone.

 

 

 

If he were a Commercial Jet pilot, with a near miss, would he have been able to land the plane?   

 

Hopefully the poor snowflake, can find a little peace, on benefits, and and some fishing trips.

 

Edited March 5, 2023 by trastrick

[Delayed]

3 minutes ago, trastrick said:

 

If he were a Commercial Jet pilot, with a near miss, would he have been able to land the plane?   

 

Hopefully the poor snowflake, can find a little peace, on benefits, and and some fishing trips.

 

Most likely given that planes have auto pilot and a co pilot. And the fact that planes can't just stop midair, let everyone off and a replacement plane or bus service take over. 

 

 

[Annie Bynnol]

2 hours ago, trastrick said:

If he were a Commercial Jet pilot, with a near miss, would he have been able to land the plane?   

Hopefully the poor snowflake, can find a little peace, on benefits, and and some fishing trips.

    Do commercial aircraft have two pilots?

    Do people step in front  aircraft at 35 000'?

   

2 hours ago, Chekhov said:

If his nerves were that bad surely he should not have been at work ?

The great majority of fatalities on the railways are suicides, and no amount of fencing (or anything) else will stop them. But, just to make it clear, I think people committing suicide on the railways are particularly selfish. If one is sick of life and wants to end it (which, in some cases, is perfectly rational) one should not involve others.

     At what point should the driver have returned to work? 

     Some never do Train driver killed himself after witnessing a death on shift.

    

2 hours ago, trastrick said:

No mention of suicide in that report, pal.

The joke is the aftermath, of a trained driver, just doing his job!

Sounds like we need to import some less traumatized train drivers. 

     That is because there was no suicide and there was no need for me and the others on the platform to give a statement.

     That you think that this is amusing is revealing.

[XPertByExperien]

3 hours ago, trastrick said:

 

No mention of suicide in that report, pal.

 

The joke is the aftermath, of a trained driver, just doing his job!

 

Sounds like we need to import some less traumatized train drivers. 

 

 

 

Or encourage less complete idiots to not literally "Train surf"  

 

 

[Chekhov]

Had a very stressful and frustrating trip back from Shirecliffe as a result of the modern obsession with "keep us safe at any cost".

 

There was a 4 way set of lights at the top of  Herries Rd, so went the other, further, way round to get home.

Only to run into another 4 way set of lights at the top of Moonshine Lane.

 

Years ago there were hardly any 4 way sets of light, and far fewer sets of temp traffic lights full stop. Multiway sets of lights are an absolute PITA as they waste far more time than 2 way lights and are far less efficient at letting traffic through.

These days they put them up at the drop of a hat, even when the roadworks are taking up less room than a legally parked car !

 

The only possible explanation is yet more over cautious regulations.

Personally it has got so much worse recently I cannot help thinking there has been a change in the regulations as regards temporary lights, there is a thread on that here.

 

Basically we, and thousands of other road users, all lose 5 minutes out of our lives, and get a loads of extra frustration into the bargain, so that the chances of someone having a serious accident is reduced by some infinitesimally small amount.

 

**** off.......

 

Rarely has my signature been more appropriate :

 

For all Health & Safety edicts we should ask : exactly how much safer will this make us ? 

And what are we sacrificing to achieve that ?

[trastrick]

5 hours ago, Delayed said:

Most likely given that planes have auto pilot and a co pilot. And the fact that planes can't just stop midair, let everyone off and a replacement plane or bus service take over. 

 

 

What happens when the co-pilot is traumatized by the same "traumatizing" event? 

 

And there's no John Wayne back in the passenger section, to come up, slap him back into reality and talk him down? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Delayed]

Just now, trastrick said:

What happens when the co-pilot is traumatized by the same "traumatizing" event? 

 

And there's no John Wayne back in the passenger section, to come up, slap him back into reality and talk him down? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Auto pilot as previously mentioned. But as Anna has pointed out, your analogy is a silly one because no one will be stepping out in front of a plane mid flight.