steve68 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 we supply fire extinguishers, smoke alarms and carbon monoxide alarms electrics are certificated, gas is checked yearly . Guess we aren't cheapskates, when its comes to our social responsibilities towards our tenants. you really are a cretin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHasRisen Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 How on earth can you moan about houses being fitted with carbon monoxide detectors? Seriously. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trastrick Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Just now, steve68 said: we supply fire extinguishers, smoke alarms and carbon monoxide alarms electrics are certificated, gas is checked yearly . Guess we aren't cheapskates, when its comes to our social responsibilities towards our tenants. you really are a cretin With citizens taking their own responsibility for burglar alams, smoke fire detectors, phone networks, mail, car alarms, fire extinguishers and the rest, we can look forward to lifting the onerous burden on our poor overworked, firemen, police, and the tiers of bureacrats that used to do it for us. One would hope! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve68 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, trastrick said: With citizens taking their own responsibility for burglar alams, smoke fire detectors, phone networks, mail, car alarms, fire extinguishers and the rest, we can look forward to lifting the onerous burden on our poor overworked, firemen, police, and the tiers of bureacrats that used to do it for us. One would hope! Lol 1 carbon monoxide alarm £20 lasts 10-12 yrs ....... maybe raise the rent by a 1p a week or just be a decent landlord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chekhov Posted June 28, 2022 Author Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, HeHasRisen said: How on earth can you moan about houses being fitted with carbon monoxide detectors? Seriously. I am not moaning about houses being fitted with smoke detectors, I am moaning about the fact it is a legal requirement for landlords to fit them and, probably, maintain them. One wonders if that includes having to check the effin' batteries because, apparently, tenants are regarded as being so stupid..... Quite apart from anything, for a portable (and cheap) item like a smoke alarm, if they want to be consistent, why is it not a legal requirement for all houses to have them ? Why just rented properties ? 4 minutes ago, steve68 said: 1 carbon monoxide alarm £20 lasts 10-12 yrs ....... maybe raise the rent by a 1p a week or just be a decent landlord It isn't the cost, it's the hassle, yet another complication in life. That is the whole point of this thread, life is getting too soddin' complicated and restricted, and more and more so every year. hat said it can be a cost issue, my friends Mum's house is 60 miles away and managed by an agent, they want to charge £75 to get someone to go and fit one, or "only" £36 if done at the same time as a boiler service. What the hell is a boiler service anyway ? >>just be a decent landlord<< You have missed the point entirely. Owner occupiers are expected to sort out their own smoke alarms, why cannot tenants do so ? Edited June 28, 2022 by Chekhov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve68 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 20 minutes ago, HeHasRisen said: How on earth can you moan about houses being fitted with carbon monoxide detectors? Seriously. he must squeak when he walks he's that tight, yet wants so much its like a 2yr old at the sweet counter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHasRisen Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Chekhov said: I am not moaning about houses being fitted with smoke detectors, I am moaning about the fact it is a legal requirement for landlords to fit them and, probably, maintain them. And whats the issue with that? Should a tenant also be responsible for fixing the boiler when that breaks? Redoing the facias and soffits? Fixing the washing machine when its been provided to start with? Top tip: don't be a landlord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve68 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 i'd rather spend £20 and have peace of mind that a tenant won't come to any harm from a boiler or appliance we own, I can't even comprehend thinking if something goes wrong we could fix the gas appliance, and replace a dead tenant. for the sake of £20 every 10 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chekhov Posted June 28, 2022 Author Share Posted June 28, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, HeHasRisen said: And whats the issue with that? Should a tenant also be responsible for fixing the boiler when that breaks? Redoing the facias and soffits? Fixing the washing machine when its been provided to start with? Top tip: don't be a landlord. Equating buying a smoke alarm with mending a boiler (which is part of the house and the tenant cannot take it with them) is absurd. Your point about landlords is significant though., The more people who are put off being a landlords (the worst aspect is the complete imbalance in power between the tenant and the landlord. but all these additional regulations and costs are getting there) the fewer properties will be available to rent and the higher the price will be. Edited June 28, 2022 by Chekhov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHasRisen Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Just now, Chekhov said: Equating buying a smoke alarm with mending a boiler which is part of the house, is absurd. You mean that same boiler than can go wrong and hence the need for a carbon monoxide alarm? Ah you are finally getting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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