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Police have blamed the fans, but there's a fair number of pictures and videos out there showing the police weren't exactly exemplary in their behaviour.

 

They seemed to have forgot everyone has a camera and all footage can be made public in an instant.

 

 

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58 minutes ago, Thirsty Relic said:

Surely all it needs is to check how many Liverpool supporters WENT there, the number of REAL tickets they were alloaced, and then work out what the problem was........  not very difficult.......

Oh no no no. You can't possibly for one second  even suggest it might partially be the fault of one single member of the angelic Liverpool fans.

 

It's all the police init...  Its the authorities init.....  It's the government innit....

 

We all know how this is going to play out in the media, twitterati, talk shows, point scoring MPs and sensationalist newspapers.  

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Just watch crowd scenes at football matches , the scowling faces and obscene gestures and language when things are not going well for our lovely team and players , supporters of the sport (who are some times perfectly calm and placid) suddenly change into stone age cave dwellers when attending matches . perhaps that is where the answer is when wondering why things go wrong at matches .

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13 hours ago, Thirsty Relic said:

Surely all it needs is to check how many Liverpool supporters WENT there, the number of REAL tickets they were alloaced, and then work out what the problem was........  not very difficult.......

Not really, many without tickets went just for "the craic" of being with other fans and watching the match in the "fan zones" which had big screens set up in squares.

 

But I read that some were trying to get to the empty parts of the stadium reserved for segregating the fans - upto 20,000 seats?

 

Why is it only football where fans can't sit beside rival fans without wanting to beat them up?  I've been to countless rugby and cricket matches and got on really well with rival fans sat nearby.  We've even shared food and drink and shaken hands at the end of the match.

 

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18 hours ago, ECCOnoob said:

Yeah.  Liverpool fans continue their streak.  Always seem to miraculously be the ones involved whenever there is crowd control issues  or unauthorised presence or dodgy tickets or general disruption involving football.

 

I'm sure as usual they will maximise playing victim and blame everyone else despite reported tens of thousands of them being there with absolutely no legitimate reason nor valid tickets for entry.  

 

Of course it doesn't mean that the authorities are necessarily entirely blameless either.  However, before all those genuinely aggrieved ticket holders start with the woe is me finger pointing, why isn't their first targeted complaint directed firmly own fellow moronic fans who didn't have any tickets but still rocked up.

 

Ring any bells? It certainly does for me.   

Interestingly, you are usually the one calling for evidence and for people not to jump to conclusions. 

 

Your views on Grenfell were quite vehement in that respect. Here we are, five years later, with nobody prosecuted for the deaths of those people.

 

Yet, you are happy to point the finger at the Liverpool fans, without any knowledge of what really happened.

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