Shipping Containers Coming To Fargate

[harvey19]

28 minutes ago, prince al said:

As Toby asked this morning “how does the thought of generators powering the empty containers costing 9K a month fuel, sit within a clean air zone “?

Virtually outside the town hall where the planners are putting plant pots in roads to reduce pollution.

 

[RollingJ]

Just now, harvey19 said:

Virtually outside the town hall where the planners are putting plant pots in roads to reduce pollution.

 

They couldn't 'plan' their way out of said plant pots.

[Fredderick]

9 hours ago, Man in Crete said:

 

 hours ago,  Fredderick said: 

“People need to ask linked questions about (I) the relationship between the developer of the containers - Mr McGrail -and cabinet member for business (and responsible for the deal that started all this) Mazar Iqbal.  And ii) the process by which the developer was appointed. Any normal process where there could be a number of possible operators (like those doing it successfully in other cities for example) is advertised and run as a competitive process? Can anyone tell me if there was a competitive process for this? And if not, why ‘“
 

this would be Martin McGrail then?

 

 

   15 hours ago,  Baron99 said: 

How can SCC & its Officers get this so wrong when they have a successful blueprint just down the road in the much larger 'Steel Yard' at Kelham Island?   

 

Martin McGrail is a director of steel yard and also introduced a container based cafe to stannington park?

 

stand to be corrected but a sheffield councillor was a director of one of his dissolved companies- not the one previously mentioned on here though 

 

there’s some interesting articles about t him and his steel containers on line 

Sheffield councillor a former director… bob Johnston I assume? Mazar and Bob are as thick as errrr, thieves! 

[hackey lad]

Wonder when we are going to get another Video of Mazar Iqbal touring the portakabins and grinning like  a Cheshire  Cat 

[Man in Crete]

30 minutes ago, Fredderick said:

Sheffield councillor a former director… bob Johnston I assume? Mazar and Bob are as thick as errrr, thieves! 

The very same ex leader of scc!  

[AndrewC]

On 14/12/2022 at 11:30, Mr Bloke said:

But the good news is...
... at least the SCC "apologists" now seem to have finally left the building!

 

Come back soon, we're missing you already!

Most of us 'SCC apologists' on this thread merely asked for it to be given a chance for the sake of fairness and the sake of those independent retailers/outlets who had signed up to it.

 

And it isn't unfair or untrue to say these kinds of schemes have been successful elsewhere in Sheffield and other UK cities. Like you say in your last post, perhaps that just illustrates what a ****-up it has been.

 

Either way, just asking for it to be given a chance doesn't mean we don't agree that SCC made a lot of very silly errors in it's implementation.

Edited December 15, 2022 by AndrewC

[AndrewC]

22 hours ago, fools said:

you're still defending it as a good idea, but poorly implemented.

It was an OK idea, poorly implemented (or rather, that ran in to foreseeable issues).

 

There's literally a big christmas market surrounding it now which is basically the same principle - temporary units for short-term leases - that is doing perfectly good trade.

 

 

Had it not been implemented so late and delayed so much, it would have been up and running in early summer, it would have bedded-in in good weather, shown & benefitted from all the Women's Euros matches, and the tenants would probably have done a decent summer of trade.

 

None of that happened, and it's failed pretty miserably. But that's just this SCC-run incarnation of it. Go and ask the operators of STACK in Newcastle how their similar scheme has been going (it's closing soon but only due to development of the current site - it's moving to a new site next year).

[fools]

4 minutes ago, AndrewC said:

It was an OK idea, poorly implemented (or rather, that ran in to foreseeable issues).

unsurprisingly we will have to disagree again, it's a waste of tax payers money, at a time when every penny should be accounted for. and boy is it ugly.

 

they could have bought 3 burger vans on wheels with a lot less hassle for a lot less money.

 

 

 

Edited December 15, 2022 by fools

[RollingJ]

4 minutes ago, AndrewC said:

It was an OK idea, poorly implemented (or rather, that ran in to foreseeable issues).

 

 

Had it not been implemented so late and delayed so much, it would have been up and running in early summer, it would have bedded-in in good weather, shown & benefitted from all the Women's Euros matches, and the tenants would probably have done a decent summer of trade.

 

None of that happened, and it's failed pretty miserably. But that's just this SCC-run incarnation of it. Go and ask the operators of STACK in Newcastle how their similar scheme has been going (it's closing soon but only due to development of the current site - it's moving to a new site next year).

Agreed, @AndrewC - had it not been 'sponsored' by an incompetent administration, it would probably have been a reasonable success, but it was poorly planned and executed, with the resulting abysmal outcome.

 

As you say, these enterprises can and do work well elsewhere, but they are given more consideration before implementation

[HeHasRisen]

Someone else giving it a go, with much longer hours planned 

 

https://www.thestar.co.uk/lifestyle/food-and-drink/arundel-gate-sheffield-new-shipping-container-complex-planned-for-city-centre-serving-alcohol-till-1am-3955316