Man in Crete Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 hours ago, Fredderick said: “People need to ask linked questions about (I) the relationship between the developer of the containers - Mr McGrail -and cabinet member for business (and responsible for the deal that started all this) Mazar Iqbal. And ii) the process by which the developer was appointed. Any normal process where there could be a number of possible operators (like those doing it successfully in other cities for example) is advertised and run as a competitive process? Can anyone tell me if there was a competitive process for this? And if not, why ‘“ this would be Martin McGrail then? 15 hours ago, Baron99 said: How can SCC & its Officers get this so wrong when they have a successful blueprint just down the road in the much larger 'Steel Yard' at Kelham Island? Martin McGrail is a director of steel yard and also introduced a container based cafe to stannington park? stand to be corrected but a sheffield councillor was a director of one of his dissolved companies- not the one previously mentioned on here though there’s some interesting articles about t him and his steel containers on line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bloke Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Hmmm... Well at the risk of stating the obvious... WE TOLD YOU SO! It's taken just 6 months and only 69 pages of posts for some people to begin to realise that what some of us said back on page 1 of this thread is (surprise, surprise) pretty close to what appears to have been happening! But would anyone listen? Well a few maybe... ... but we were constantly shouted down by the "Forum Experts" and SCC sympathisers who said we were talking rubbish and didn't have a clue of what's involved in managing such a project! In reality, it now seems that those few of us who raised the initial concerns were the ONLY ones who DID have a clue of how badly the whole fiasco was being run! WE were accused of using ANY excuse to have a dig at SCC... ... who have teams of "professionals" working on "implementation plans and strategies" to address any problems, if and when they should crop up. But some of us clearly saw the early indications of yet another failing SCC "vanity incompetence project". The early "hiccups" were nothing to worry about we were told... ... these sort of things "happen all the time"! Yeah... well that last bit was certainly correct... ... at least where SCC are involved! But the good news is... ... at least the SCC "apologists" now seem to have finally left the building! Come back soon, we're missing you already! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackey lad Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, Mr Bloke said: Hmmm... Well at the risk of stating the obvious... WE TOLD YOU SO! It's taken just 6 months and only 69 pages of posts for some people to begin to realise that what some of us said back on page 1 of this thread is (surprise, surprise) pretty close to what appears to have been happening! But would anyone listen? Well a few maybe... ... but we were constantly shouted down by the "Forum Experts" and SCC sympathisers who said we were talking rubbish and didn't have a clue of what's involved in managing such a project! In reality, it now seems that those few of us who raised the initial concerns were the ONLY ones who DID have a clue of how badly the whole fiasco was being run! WE were accused of using ANY excuse to have a dig at SCC... ... who have teams of "professionals" working on "implementation plans and strategies" to address any problems, if and when they should crop up. But some of us clearly saw the early indications of yet another failing SCC "vanity incompetence project". The early "hiccups" were nothing to worry about we were told... ... these sort of things "happen all the time"! Yeah... well that last bit was certainly correct... ... at least where SCC are involved! But the good news is... ... at least the SCC "apologists" now seem to have finally left the building! Come back soon, we're missing you already! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Bundy Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Sheffield city council. 🤡🤡 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewanarm Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Latest in the Star that costs rising to £600000 and will close end of February and upstairs bar abandoned. Described as a 'comedy of errors.' https://www.thestar.co.uk/business/sheffield-container-park-upstairs-bar-abandoned-as-costs-head-for-ps600000-3953033 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHasRisen Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 (edited) Whoever wrote that article needs a refresher in how to write, starting a sentence with the word "and" is a schoolboy error. Not surprised our esteemed local media organ employs such fantastic journalists. EDIT - crikey, seems the article was written by "The Star's longstanding Business Editor". Shambolic. Edited December 14, 2022 by HeHasRisen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bloke Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 34 minutes ago, ewanarm said: Latest in the Star that costs rising to £600000 and will close end of February and upstairs bar abandoned. Described as a 'comedy of errors.' https://www.thestar.co.uk/business/sheffield-container-park-upstairs-bar-abandoned-as-costs-head-for-ps600000-3953033 I'm loving the last bit Quote Now, a review will be held to look at new sites and possibly putting the containers into storage. The idea of the SCC "think tank" now considering possible ways of putting shipping containers into "storage" is priceless... ... maybe they could get some bigger shipping containers to accommodate them? I think it's best to make it absolutely clear to any SCC employees reading this that the last comment was NOT intended to be taken as a serious suggestion... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackey lad Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 1 hour ago, HeHasRisen said: Whoever wrote that article needs a refresher in how to write, starting a sentence with the word "and" is a schoolboy error. Not surprised our esteemed local media organ employs such fantastic journalists. EDIT - crikey, seems the article was written by "The Star's longstanding Business Editor". Shambolic. Don’t kill the messenger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fools Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 (edited) On 03/06/2022 at 12:14, HeHasRisen said: For retailers. Unfortunately the OP didnt provide much detail but he seems go be suggesting they go in the shops instead. I pointed out it isnt quite as easy as that. The containers wont be at eye watering rates for starters. The old Thomas Cook unit is currently for rent at £42500pa, now add on the rates....wont be cheap. What's 600 divided by (42.5/3) Edited December 14, 2022 by fools Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHasRisen Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, fools said: What's 600 divided by (42.5*3) Whats the relevance? I dont have a calculator to hand. If you are trying to claim "it would have been better had they just rented a shop", they wouldnt have got the initial central government grant for that, and neither that or renting a shop out would have happened. Edited December 14, 2022 by HeHasRisen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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