Planner1 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 9 hours ago, cuttsie said: Like planning around Atkinsons at Moor Foot , when every thing else was at other end of Town , Its not what you know comes to mind once again . No, everything else was not at the other end of town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuttsie Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, Planner1 said: No, everything else was not at the other end of town. Just now, cuttsie said: You win . But what about jobs for the boys , Unqualified boys its not what you know its who you know . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackey lad Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 15 minutes ago, Planner1 said: No, everything else was not at the other end of town. Most of it was , two markets , supertram , court house , main police station, cathedral , leisure centre etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planner1 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 9 hours ago, blackydog said: Free parking and (relative) ease of access, seems to work for Meadowhall but wouldn't work for the city centre? Name any city in the UK or Western Europe that offers free parking and doesn’t have traffic restrictions. No one else does. Why do you think it would work here. There is no evidence anywhere to support that theory. Meadowhall was planned, designed and built with ease of car access in mind. It’s designed as a shopping and leisure centre. Their business model from day 1 has been to offer free parking to customers ( which the businesses there actually pay for through their rents) The city centre has grown organically from a small settlement hundreds of years ago. It was not originally planned and built to accommodate cars. It’s the base for a huge number of businesses, shops, leisure facilities, hotels, and it has lots of housing. The two are not the same, they are nothing like each other. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planner1 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 1 minute ago, hackey lad said: Most of it was , two markets , supertram , court house , main police station, cathedral , leisure centre etc No, don’t agree. The city centre stretched from Moorfoot to Wicker. Cathedral is in the middle of that and so is the tram. Most people think that the city centre was too stretched out anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planner1 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 21 minutes ago, cuttsie said: You win . But what about jobs for the boys , Unqualified boys its not what you know its who you know . Utter rubbish. Might have happened many years ago, well before my time, but I’m sure it also happened in the private sector too. I’ve worked in local government since the 1970’s and every job I’ve ever seen has had a recruitment process. I have never ever seen any trace of “jobs for the boys” or heard of anyone trying to influence the results of any recruitment exercise ( and I’ve done a fair bit of recruitment in my time). 59 minutes ago, busdriver1 said: The fact you have answered my point in this way says it all. It says you haven’t made your point clearly enough. I’m a simple chap. Just say what you mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackey lad Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 34 minutes ago, Planner1 said: No, don’t agree. The city centre stretched from Moorfoot to Wicker. Cathedral is in the middle of that and so is the tram. Most people think that the city centre was too stretched out anyway. So move everyone away from the middle and a good transport network. Why not rebuild the area with most facilities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planner1 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 23 minutes ago, hackey lad said: So move everyone away from the middle and a good transport network. Why not rebuild the area with most facilities? I believe they’ve regenerated the bit that the private sector were prepared to fund. ( the Moor). They’ve now secured some funding to rebuild the public realm on Fargate, which might stimulate some private investment there. There’s seldom enough money to do everything you’d want in the exact order you’d like to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey19 Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 14 hours ago, blackydog said: Would you care to expand on the reasons why? From what I'm being told, the parking in the city centre is easy to access, and reasonably priced. Reasonably priced parking at Atkinsons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredderick Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Fair play to you Planner1. I only come on here occasionally but every time I do, you are deep into it trying to add your own brand of objectivity and reasoned argument. I don’t always agree with you (well, very rarely do TBF), but I do admire your tenacity. Merry Xmas and a happy new year to you and everyone else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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